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#376
Multimedia / Re: RC6a non working sound
2009.02.19, 06:55:29
I believe that the line number discrepancy is caused, because OS/2 actually reads the CONFIG.SYS multiple times, selecting different types of entries, on each pass, and counting the lines as it executes them.The result is, that what it has counted, bears no relation to the line number in CONFIG.SYS.

It may help, if you told us, exactly, what audio adapter you have. PCI.EXE, from HOBBES, should show the information.

ACPI can also be a bit of a challenge. Again, it might help, if you described your system, in more detail, and exactly what it does, or doesn't do, when you try ACPI.
#377
My brother has a machine (Gigabyte 7IXE motherboard), that simply reboots, when power off is requested. It does it with APM, or ACPI, so neither one of them is directly at fault. WinXP, of course, works fine. My suspicion is, that Windows simply loops on the power off command, until the machine actually powers off, while OS/2, using APM, or ACPI, simply issues the power off command once, then waits for it to happen. The result appears to be, that the power off doesn't happen, and the power supply sees the "glitch" as being a reset signal, which initiates a power on sequence (reboot <- You can hear something click, at the time that it should turn off). BIOS settings make no difference, so my brother simply waits for the POST, and holds the power off switch, until it does go off. That motherboard will be replaced (it is old), the next time I get to visit him, but I don't believe that the motherboard is defective, I think it may just be a bad design (may be in the BIOS, which could also be used in other motherboards), that the windows wizards have worked around.
#378
Rexx / Re: CW's DrDialog controls
2009.01.23, 21:46:20
I too would like an official distro, but it is my understanding, that there is no such thing, only the DLL (there is also a 016 version of the DLL). You can use the 015 distro, and simply substitute the 017 DLL though. AFAIK, there is nothing new in the later DLLs.
#379
QuoteTurn OFF "boot to OS/2 above 64MB". That is ONLY for OS/2 v2.x. Later versions don't work with that.

That puzzles me. Has anyone here really found that to make a difference? My understanding is that since Warp4 (kernel... ?) this setting doesn't impact at all any more. I remember to have installed almost anything since OS/2 2.x until eCS 2.0rc6 on machines ranging from 386-40 up to AMD DualCore machines... and whenever that setting was in the BIOS, toggling it to either value didn't make a difference IIRC (at least, ok, since PentiumI times... true for 386...).
I doubt that I just "was lucky" in matching OS/2 versions with CPU eras...

As I recall, turning that on, with newer versions of OS/2, actually limits the amount of initial memory that OS/2 can use. It should not be on, unless you are running the antique OS/2 2.x, but it doesn't always prevent a system from working, although you may see some odd problems, that you might not relate to that setting.
#380
Applications / Re: OpenOffice 2.4 problems
2009.01.15, 03:54:13
You might be able to reduce the usage of shared memory space, by adding the line:
DLLBASING=OFF
near the top of your CONFIG.SYS. There is a minor performance hit, but you will never notice it, unless you are running on a 486 processor, but that will allow OS/2 to make more efficient use of shared memory space.
#381
Utilities / Re: Noob in need of help.
2009.01.15, 03:49:49
Seems that you know a little about it javascript:void(0);

QuoteD:\ is a logical drive, since OS/2 won't allow more than one Primary.

Actually, that isn't true. OS/2 can have 4 primary partitions per disk (same as windows). You do need to remember, that the extended partition is actually a primary partition, but that is probably not relevant here...

Now, are you sure that C: is really the bootable drive? OS/2 can be installed on, and boot from, a logical partition, using any letter.

Next, are you sure that the original disk addresses were C: and D:. OS/2 won't run if you change the drive address of the boot drive.

Try the command "SYSINSTX C:" (without the quotes). That might fix it up, if everything else is okay.
#382
Hardware / Re: New to the Board
2009.01.10, 00:51:35
QuoteHi folks.  Well I decided to dust off the old OS/2 disks and put it on an older machine.  Turns out my old machine is more than OS/2 can handle. Grin At least with the drivers it came with.  So any thoughts as to where to turn to find more current drivers and updates?  Large HDD issue seems first to fix.

Welcome to the group...

I think your hardware should work, but you may need a more current disk driver, to get OS/2 to install. Warp 4 can be a bit of a challenge, on any hardware that is newer than about the year 2000. If you do have 4.52 (AKA MCP2), I would suggest starting with that, since it is significantly newer than the old warp 4 (it is also based on Warp Server for E-Business, rather than the older warp 4). Of course, the easy way to get the updates, and a much better installer, is to get eComStation (no, I am not part of that, except as a satisfied customer). ECS also gets you access to the latest available updates, which you can no longer get from IBM.

However, you should be able to plug in the DaniDasd IDE driver, and get something to work. Go to HOBBES:

http://hobbes.nmsu.edu/

and get danis506r185.zip. The instructions are in the docs. While you are at it, also get daniatapi040.zip.

You will have to create boot diskettes, and modify them, to get it to install using the new driver.

Hopefully, that will get you off the ground, but prepare for further problems, that may require updates, that you just can't get anywhere but  with eComStation.
#383
Setup & Installation / Re: rc6a
2009.01.09, 10:08:54
There are conflicting reports, about AMD and ACPI. Some say that it doesn't work, and others say that it does, once you find the proper switches. The system should work fine, in single processor mode, without ACPI.  It is also a requirement, to use either the UNI, or SMP kernel (you have the W4 kernel, according to your post), if you use ACPI (although I have never heard of anyone who has actually had a problem with it).

One problem, that I had, was that the RC6a installer put the line:
EARLYMEMINIT=TRUE
into CONFIG.SYS. While it was there, my system had some sort of background process, that was eating up roughly 30% of the CPU cycles (two, very different systems). Once I got rid of that line, everything seems to be normal.

The lines, in CONFIG.SYS, for APM, and ACPI, are:
========================
REM [APM section
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\BOOT\APM.SYS
REM DEVICE=C:\OS2\MDOS\VAPM.SYS
REM RUN=C:\OS2\APMDAEMN.EXE
REM PSD=OS2APIC.PSD
PSD=ACPI.PSD /SMP /PIC
BASEDEV=APM.ADD
RUN=C:\OS2\ACPIDAEMON.EXE
========================
The REMed lines are for the older APM, which may work for you. PSD=OS2APIC.PSD is the OLD way to run multiple processors, and that works fine on my two, very different, SMP systems. The last three lines are for ACPI. The PSD line is what works with my new Asus M3A78-EM motherboard, with a triple core AMD processor, but the REMed lines also work fine (after REMing the other three lines, of course).

Okay, now to your VISTA problem. How did you shrink the VISTA partition? When i did that, I had to use the VISTA tools to do it (VISTA has that tool built in). Then, I was able to add new partitions for eCS, using LVM.EXE. MiniLVM wouldn't touch it, and DFSEE still doesn't like the way that the windows partitions are made, but it works.

I suspect, that you will need to reinstall VISTA, or, restore a backup, if you have one. I would guess, that something in VISTA has been corrupted, or (more likely), It thinks you have installed it onto a different machine, and it isn't going to let you do that, in which case, restore may not work either.
#384
QuoteBesides - shouldn't it actually give a "file unreadable" error message if that was the problem?

Unfortunately, CDs don't always indicate that there was an error. Making an ISO may simply replicate the error, with no questions asked. Since you have the same error, on two systems, I am inclined to believe that the CD is bad, somehow. Perhaps, somebody who has an MCP2 CD can create a MD5 signature for it, and you can compare that to what you get.

Your systems seem to be pretty standard, although there was a time when the SIS chipset was a problem, but I think that problem was fixed by the time that MCP2 was created. The only questionable device, might be the PCTel modem. It likely won't work, if it is a "winmodem", but it won't stop an install.

Three things come to mind, that can cause problems, although having two, different, systems, with the same symptoms, really doesn't point in this direction:

1) OS/2 will find bad memory, almost as fast as the heavy duty memory test programs will. I have seen windows (3.1, at the time), run for days, with no problems, but OS/2 (warp 3) wouldn't even boot. Once the bad memory was replaced, there were no more problems.

2) There was a time, long ago, when the "Turbo" switch was common, that it was recommended to install OS/2 at the slow speed. If your systems are overclocked, it would be a good idea to put them back to normal.

3) Check the jumpers on your disk, and CD drives, to be sure that Master and Slave are correct. Windows doesn't care, and OS/2, with the later Dani IDE driver, will work, if the jumpers are wrong, but the IBM IDE driver, which will be on the MCP2 CD, will choke on that sort of thing.
#385
Those systems should work, unless they have some really weird hardware in them. My first guess, is that you have a defective CD (could also be two bad CD drives, with read problems). You could try to copy it to a hard disk, to see if it gives read errors. If it does, you will need a new CD, but I have no idea where/if you can get one, unless you can pick one up from E-Bay. Since you have MCP2, I would suggest that getting eComStation might be an option. The installer works a LOT better, and there are many fixes applied, that MCP2 doesn't have.

You can build new floppies, using a batch file that is in the root of the CD. I believe it is MAKEDSKS.BAT (for a DOS, or windows system, but NOT with XP, or newer, since they aren't smart enough to be able to run the required program), or MAKEDSKS.CMD, if you have an OS/2 system (command line is adequate). I doubt if this will fix your problem, since you seem to be able to boot from the CD, and are having the problem while copying from the CD. Booting from the diskettes, still requires that you copy the files from the CD.

I think the IBM tip is for much older versions of OS/2, so I wouldn't consider that to be a potential fix.

If that doesn't help, perhaps a little more detail about the systems might suggest something.
#386
QuoteCurrently I was trying on a Pentium II 450mhz and also a Pentium II 350mhz PC, but I get the same results (read: problems) on each one. Each has 196MB of RAM and I've got "boot to OS/2 above 64MB" enabled in the BIOS on each.

Turn OFF "boot to OS/2 above 64MB". That is ONLY for OS/2 v2.x. Later versions don't work with that.
#387
Go to the Desktop properties-> eShutdown tab, and turn OFF Animation before shutdown (before reboot still works, but I turn that off too).
#388
Hardware / Re: LCD Display StandBy
2008.11.18, 19:02:18
I had an ATI X300 in my old system. The DVI interface would not put the monitor to sleep, while the other interface did. I had to replace the motherboard, a few days ago, and the new MB (Asus M3A78-EM, with AMD Phenom triple core processor) comes with an ATI Radeon HD 3200 GPU video system. That has both connectors, and the DVI does put the monitor to sleep, using the default settings in Doodle's Screen Saver. I never did find a way to put it to sleep, using the DVI interface on the X300, using either SNAP, or Panorama (I am using SNAP on the new system - I haven't tried Panorama, yet).

It is best to tell the system what monitor is attached, so that it also knows what the monitor is capable of doing. If you attempt to do the settings yourself, you can get it into a setting that the monitor doesn't know about, and then you will have to try to get it working again, without being able to see what you are doing.
#389
Internet / Re: Firefox 3.01 hangs
2008.08.25, 02:59:11
FWIW, if I remove the Flash plugin from FF 3.01, I get roughly 10 days, before odd things start to happen to my system. With the Flash plugin, in FF 3.01, I get roughly 4 hours, before I have problems. I am convinced, that the Flash plugin is causing most of the problems with Firefox, and, probably, other things too.
#390
One option, that I know about, is to get a router with the VOIP feature. That is totally OS neutral. You still need a service, to be able to use it, but they are available. I believe that one of them is VONAGE:
http://www.vonage.com