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Article Discussions / Re: Qt version 4.7.3
« on: 2011.09.23, 23:11:26 »
I forgot that I installed the older qt4 with warpin, so I just deleted the content of my old qt4-folder and put the new one's there and added the new path. This didn't work and I realised there were conflicting dlls, so I deleted all dlls beginning with qt4 i C:\ecs\dll and that worked fine. It is a simple install really and I can't see the need of RPM - which has been said to be needed due to complicated dependences and so on. Well, Warpin had worked great.

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Hardware / Re: OpenGL ddk
« on: 2011.09.21, 09:28:50 »
Hi demetrious,
it is nice to hear from you again. Your points 1 to 5 isn't really understandable to me but your statement
"All of this should amount to a pretty modern & robust 3d stack that's achievable in a much shorter time-span than the roadmap that I was originally working towards" sounds as a very good development to me.

Allthough working alone (in any business) gives you freedom to decide, it also, as you say, wears on you. Can't offer any help with your work though, but please get in touch if you need help with e.g. testing things or so. Good luck with your work.

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Hardware / Re: HLT driver
« on: 2011.09.19, 03:55:27 »
Hi Andy,
I've tried your driver on my T43p. Works fine! My temp is about 60 C when doing nothing and 70 C running a wmv-movie in fullscreen and in the same time surfing on the net extensively. That is very good!

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Mail-News / Calendar for Thunderbird 6
« on: 2011.09.08, 09:40:39 »
FF and TB 6.02 are out. I have waited to upgrade TB as there hasn't been any up-to-date Lightning (the calendar extension). Now I found "Reminder Fox", which is another calendar extension - feature reach, nice and importing *.ics- files. Just a tip!

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.09.07, 00:01:45 »
dmik,

As far as I understand your aim it is to implement the RPM installer in order to ease installation and updates of both *nix ports and native os2-software. To better suit *nix-ports you also want to implement FHS as the directory tree standard in eCS. Morover the eCS command line will be replaced by "e.g. sh.exe instead of cmd.exe", while the eCS command line will be left for compabilitity reasons.

Many users of eCS have used OS2-eCS for a long time and have developed habits in their use and ways to manage problems. I guess that quite a few rely on eCS for their business investments. In total many eCS users also have a grounded knowledge of their OS. Morover eCS is not just any OS, it is an OS into which people also have invested a great deal of feelings, we all know that and the reasons why.

 
I don't distrust your good will and effort to provide eCS with more software, but I wish you would understand peoples feeling about your idea. You are trying to argue in an over-rational way while not being able (or willing) to understand the resistance you meet. You are forcing to people a *nix layout and way of thinking and handling software. Morover you take the ordinary eCS users grounded knowledge from them as things become lesser transparent (RPM knows but not you) and lesser flexible (can't organise software the way you want), in that way hampering their work habits and ways to deal with problems. For many eCS users this is provoking - it is a little bit like saying to someone: "from now on you should speak spanish (or whatever language), you can't use your language anymore".

I think it would be good if you stopped arguing for a moment and tried to listen. RPM might turn out to be good, but eventually implemented in another way -  a way that is acceptable to users and can preserve OS2-eCS values - both practical and emotional.You may say that the use of RPM is voluntary, and of course it is, we can choose not to use it. But on the other hand you can choose too, you can choose to listen to what people are communicating.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.09.05, 08:47:26 »
FYI! As Remy and others have pointed out and you all see for yourselves, there is problems with forum threads. I know that Martin is working on a migration to a new platform, but this may take its time. To reach earlier pages in this thread please enter www.os2world.com/forum in your address field to go straight to the forum (this way should work). You'll find this thread under "Setup & Installation". We are sorry for the inconvenience.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.09.01, 23:21:30 »
Is it to be understood that the dictated way also is the way Mensys want to go with eCS? In all cases, they are the big players in this game.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.09.01, 17:19:49 »
 I agree to that. In my view it's a bad idea to just force a layout on a system that have another tradition. It makes me feel as djcaetano said in an earlier posting "uneasy" to know that either you (as a user) need expert knowledge and  can do whatever you want - or you are regarded as someone who need to know nothing and shouldn't bother about what your system does.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.08.29, 22:52:03 »
melf, excuse me, but you have probably misread me. In that paragraph I was talking about the average user. It looks like you don't consider yourself as such, so you should probably refer to the section related to "geeks" in my post.

I doesn't really matter if you referred to the me or "the average user", the attitude of "developer knows best" is still there. I miss the user perspective and the will to try to understand.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.08.29, 21:40:53 »
One problem with you rpm-guys postings here is your attitude:

minou says: "All the complaints I have seen on rpm were people who most likely shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a computer."

dmik says: "Which means, responding to the common "I want to install software where I want it to go" argument, that this argument is no longer valid. The developer of the software knows it much better."

I'm sure you know a lot about programming, but you seem to know very little about how to listen to and deal with users and to consider user's preferences.

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Setup & Installation / Re: RPM packager
« on: 2011.08.28, 16:00:07 »
The answer is quite easy for me. Such a basic and important program as an installer must behave like an eCS installer on an eCS system. I as an eCS users don't use the system because I like the *nix systems. I don't want a directory structure that is like *nix. I want to decide where my programs will install without the need to turn to some "advanced mode". I want a transparent system that I can manage and control although I'm not a programmer (or a "person that shouldn't come near a computer").

This means no objections to use ported *nix programs but a very decent demand to make programs that as very far as possible behave as I expected an eCS-program to work.

One can surely learn from other systems, but you have adapt to and to stay with the basic standard people are used to and like.

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Internet / Re: Firefox 4? Firefox 5? Huh?
« on: 2011.08.24, 09:20:45 »
Thanks for info! I saw these builds but thought they were the same. The url-bar problem is away.

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Internet / Re: Firefox 4? Firefox 5? Huh?
« on: 2011.08.20, 23:57:38 »
Disregarding numbers I can see that the speed is better and better. For some year when using the 3.x releases Peacekeeper speeded me at about 500 points. With the first release of FF 4 i was up in 1400 I think, the 1.4.2 release gave me 1700 points and FF6 in fact gives me 1913 points. Not a bad developement!

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Applications / Re: Desktop Widgets for eCS-OS2 ??
« on: 2011.08.20, 18:41:10 »
Yep, I agree
A more up-to-date, modern, stylish or whatever word will suit, is needed to attract new users even though functionality and usability may outrun that in the long run.

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Setup & Installation / Re: How to write .cue file?
« on: 2011.08.12, 14:02:27 »
Maybe DVD-toys can be of help to ease the process? It has options for creating bootimages and several convert options.

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