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Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2012.09.28, 00:51:20
An example of a user who took my environment and ran with it, asking a lot of questions along the way, is Elbert Pol - who has now ported a shedload of apps for OS/2 - far more that I've done in recent times.
Quote from: DougB on 2012.09.28, 00:03:20QuoteI don't think anyone is asking you to stop doing what you are doing to write a manual.
I agree. Paul is not the one to write the manual. He developed his methods the hard way, learning as he went. That usually makes a person skip the obvious, simply because it is obvious (to him). What we need, is somebody to go through the procedure, asking questions along the way, and documenting what needed to be done, and why. I am sure that there are enough people who have done the basics, that we should be able to answer questions, and get something to work.
Any volunteers?
QuoteI don't think anyone is asking you to stop doing what you are doing to write a manual.
Quote from: melf on 2012.09.27, 00:37:26I've wrtiien an artikel about this a few years ago:
There is a command line client Cadaver on hobbes. That's all I found.
Quote from: Joop on 2012.09.22, 20:59:51Quote from: DougB on 2012.09.22, 20:07:34I have Paul's environment and it still doesn't set me on going. Its too short, an example program to do yourself and how to might help a lot. And I'm willing to pay a humble fee for that, but it has to set me on the right track! Sorry, I don't agree with you. I even think that you can port automated programs because the things where the compilation hangs are always the same things. So you can publish these problems so we haven't to re-invent the wheel time after time. We need to work together, otherwise we can kiss OS/2 goodbye in the future.QuoteSo we have to invest in "how do you do that" in developmentQuoteI also agree we need more information on porting software.
Paul Smedley actually released his whole build environment, and others have been using that to port things. I don't know what the details are now, I got the package when it first appeared, and it does work. I am pretty sure that you need to request the package, and possibly pay a modest fee, to get it now. The package does contain a very brief set of instructions on how to use it, but a user does have to do some serious digging, to learn how to go about porting software, especially when it won't build without modifying the code.
Unfortunately, it is probably not as simple as saying "do this..." with a set of instructions. Each program could require something different, so you would need a set of instructions for each program. The trick is, to get good enough at doing the job, that you can write your own instructions, but learning how to do it, is a lot of work.
Quote from: DougB on 2012.09.22, 20:07:34QuoteSo we have to invest in "how do you do that" in developmentQuoteI also agree we need more information on porting software.
Paul Smedley actually released his whole build environment, and others have been using that to port things. I don't know what the details are now, I got the package when it first appeared, and it does work. I am pretty sure that you need to request the package, and possibly pay a modest fee, to get it now. The package does contain a very brief set of instructions on how to use it, but a user does have to do some serious digging, to learn how to go about porting software, especially when it won't build without modifying the code.
Unfortunately, it is probably not as simple as saying "do this..." with a set of instructions. Each program could require something different, so you would need a set of instructions for each program. The trick is, to get good enough at doing the job, that you can write your own instructions, but learning how to do it, is a lot of work.
Quote from: melf on 2012.09.26, 23:24:57
Well, the graphical marks as far as I can see seem to be extremely low. On my Thinkpad T43 the PM Marks is 118 with Panorama (compared to 454 with SNAP) which is really quite good. It has been some talk about bad MTRR values and Panorama (frankly I don't know what that is, but it seem to be able to badly affect Panorama performance, but should be possible to adjust I think).