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Started by Dennis, 2009.12.12, 19:16:41

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Dennis

Being kind of dumb when it comes to all this, how do I download OpenOffice 3.1.1 for eCS?? So far, I don't think I've seen anyplace where I can get the app, or, if I have, it's been confusing enough that I didn't understand how to do the dl.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Dennis

Radek

It is a paid software on eCS. You can only buy it - at Mensys. On the top of the main page of the forum is an advertisment with needed links. Click "Read more" on the bottom of the advertisment.

rwklein

Some people wonder why you need to pay for the port to eComStation. I just want to tell this publicly again.

Mensys has considered making the binaries available free of charge and seeing if people from the community could work on the OOO builds for OS/2. Looking at the level of skillset required to build and maintain the ports (and how much time it takes) our developer is paid for it.

BTW the source code for the OS/2 version is in the SVN of SUN, so you can check out the current sources.

Roderick Klein
Mensys

Saijin_Naib

^ Are the build tools all freely available? How about build scripts and the like?

Fahrvenugen

You could always check on openoffice.org for the build tools requirement.  It appears to need libc, GCC (4.2.3 is their current reference compiler), the Mozilla build environment / libraries, it does look like you could set up a build environment and compile yourself.

Why don't you give it a try Saijin and let us know how it goes?

Glenn

Unrelated question: Will OpenOffice ever support running VBA macros ( http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/VBA ) on eCS ? This is one major function that I need from time to time for my work and that has forced me to use Excel on Windows (Matlab, Fortran90, a good Photoshop equivalent are the other missing pieces of software that prevent me from not using Windows anymore)...

Saijin_Naib

Well Fahr, I'm not a programmer. I've tried to recompile TerraIM (incredibly simple app) and I couldn't figure that out.

Perhaps if there are build scrips and all I have to do is ./configure ./make...

diver

everything is free available. but to set up your build env needs time. and if you are not a programmer i'd say you are lost, as it needs some understanding of what you do.

in general the following steps do it:
setup the build env and take a very small project and build this. if it works then you are sure the build env works
grab the source from a cvs/svn/git whatever reporitory. of course this needs again cvs/svn/git or whatever knowledge
try to build it. usually either a cmd file or a configure script does the trick
now look at the errors you get and probably you need to download some dependencies.
if there are build them and if all is built try the project again.

i wish you good luck in building ooo.org :) and i can tell you it's not a one day job. if you want a working exe buy it or take at least a week of when trying to build. as you need at least that amount of time to do the setup and all stuff right.

regards
Silvan
QT4 project lead

herwigb

I fully second Silvan - given the ammount of skill and time required to setup everything, the OOo support agreement from Mensys is ridiculously cheap.
Kind regards,
HerwigB.

osw

Quote from: herwigb on 2009.12.15, 11:13:02
I fully second Silvan - given the ammount of skill and time required to setup everything, the OOo support agreement from Mensys is ridiculously cheap.

Well, given the fact that OO builds on other platforms are ridiculosly FREE - paying for partialy functional (java support unavailable) os/2 build is rid..... ooops. is very, very SMART - just because it's on os/2. Right?
Btw, what's the price of this Free Open Source Software on os/2?
Why not distribute build environment along with build/make scripts as wpi? If there are os/2 builds it simply mean that such environment already exist. Am I wrong?
As for now it's better to run oo in virtual box under let's say ridiculously free linux where it cost nothing and yes builds are free and fully featured. And everything else will be ridiculously cheaper than paying penalties for being stubborn moron who run it under os/2. Sorry, guys but it looks that way. And no, there is no excuse to pay for FOSS. Especially for crippled one.
But it's just my opinion - and if the rest is happy then.... Happy New Year!

Andi

Quote from: osw on 2009.12.15, 12:46:45
Quote from: herwigb on 2009.12.15, 11:13:02
I fully second Silvan - given the ammount of skill and time required to setup everything, the OOo support agreement from Mensys is ridiculously cheap.

Well, given the fact that OO builds on other platforms are ridiculosly FREE - paying for partialy functional (java support unavailable) os/2 build is rid..... ooops. is very, very SMART - just because it's on os/2. Right?
Btw, what's the price of this Free Open Source Software on os/2?
Why not distribute build environment along with build/make scripts as wpi? If there are os/2 builds it simply mean that such environment already exist. Am I wrong?
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Of course you can ask Yuri how much it will cost to send you his PC with his fully configured build environment. Or you can ask another experienced developer how much it will cost to make such environment for you with the scripts and pack it into a wpi. Of course you have to specify before which dependencies have to been checked by the wpi and how they should be resolved.

But, if you trust diver, and I don't see any reason why you should not, you can count for yourself how much a week will cost. And as you want to have it on your PC with your special environment, probably you have to send your PC to the developer who will do the setup for you.

Complaining about there are a lot of volunteers for other OSes but not for eCS does not help here. But it will be much appreciated if you take the chance and do the job of packing such a build environment together and give it to the other eCS users for free ;-)

herwigb

QuoteWhy not distribute build environment along with build/make scripts as wpi? If there are os/2 builds it simply mean that such environment already exist. Am I wrong?
Yes, you are.

The build environment is freely available from Paul Smedleys site.
All the rest is in the OOo svn as you have been told before.

Asking for as free WPI package to build it, is asking for something that does not even exist on other platforms. Sure this would be cool (probably the biggest WPI ever seen), why don't you do it and provide it for free?

Everything to do it is around for free, so no problem at all.
Kind regards,
HerwigB.

RobertM

Have all the Odin dependencies been removed from the OS/2 version of OOo? If not, I'd be guessing that building it would be a lot harder than building a straight *nix port... and require a lot more dependencies and OS/2 specific code...

But that's just a guess.

Personally, I've done C/C++ programming in the past, and I am happy to pay someone else to do this. Too much hassle and on a scale I wouldn't dare to attempt.


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Andi

Quote from: RobertM on 2009.12.16, 22:27:14
Have all the Odin dependencies been removed from the OS/2 version of OOo? ...
IIRC it was stated that the 'Mensys' ports (at least the latest versions) do not depend on Odin. But as on all my machines some flavour of Odin is lying around, I can not say it for sure. So I can not try it out.


herwigb

None of the Mensys OpenOffice 2.x/3.x versions depends upon Odin. These are "native".

The Innotek OpenOffice 1.x versions were Odinized Windows versions.
Kind regards,
HerwigB.