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Started by tcross, 2008.06.05, 21:19:27

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RobertM

CORRECTION:

IBM seems to have updated their ServeRAID software since I last looked... v7.0 does support OS/2 and includes drivers.

https://www-304.ibm.com/systems/support/supportsite.wss/docdisplay?lndocid=MIGR-39733&brandind=5000008


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RobertM

Here's two links you may enjoy:

--->(ALL SORTS OF DOCUMENTATION ON IBM'S SITE)
Dont forget to scroll down for the hardware maintenance manual - hundreds of pages on everything in the system.

AND...

--->(AVAILABLE DOWNLOADS ON IBM'S SITE)
Most or all of these probably wont apply - except maybe the firmware updates... if you do decide on updating firmware, I'd suggest doing it before you install anything.

Enjoy,
Robert


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ModZilla

  Re: OS/2 motherboards
« Reply #14 on: Today at 06:41:56 » Quote 

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"IIRC, the 5500 series is OS/2 certified (WSeB - and OS/2 Warp Server Advanced V4 with SMP Feature). The install should be relatively painless ..."  thanks Robert, I hope it goe without a hitch, will give it a Go ASAP.

"...The last ServeRAID software suite that I am aware of that work with OS/2 is v6.50 - so dont even bot"her looking at newer ones..." this is what I am after...and crucial I think in this case, "and if your card BIOS/code has been upgraded, you can always downgrade it - or simply try the >v6.50 software to configure the RAID array and see what happens."

-Bios has not been changed at all to my recollection, just the array by my in_ept_ness, by swapping out the wrong SCSIs, but I am fearless...thanks so much also for the update on the manager thingy, guess its not around in shrinkwrapped pkg, if it ever was, eh? What would we do without RobertM, another vtg server being revived and IBMshow will be a MUCHO better because of it, video here we come...hey, is there a Lan server monitor still avail. anywhere for this box and something that shows which processor is being taxed by what process?

Mz
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

RobertM

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Quote from: ModZilla on 2008.07.27, 16:32:25

-Bios has not been changed at all to my recollection, just the array by my in_ept_ness, by swapping out the wrong SCSIs, but I am fearless...thanks so much also for the update on the manager thingy, guess its not around in shrinkwrapped pkg, if it ever was, eh? What would we do without RobertM, another vtg server being revived and IBMshow will be a MUCHO better because of it, video here we come...hey, is there a Lan server monitor still avail. anywhere for this box and something that shows which processor is being taxed by what process?

Mz


Built into WSeB and WS4 Advanced SMP. Also, xWorkplace's CPU monitor will support as many CPUs as you have in the system (with the added benefit of also showing you IRQ load - ie: how much of the total system load is hardware based, as well as how much is CPU based).

With WSeB, it should (IIRC) be under Programs->Utilities->CPU Monitor. With WS4A-SMP, it may be in that location as well, but I dont remember.

(I havent installed WS4A in half a decade, so take this for what it is worth)
I do seem to remember that WS4 came with two monitors... SMP and UNI... so if you only get one CPU shown (and no option in the menu to display each) then you have the UNI monitor installed and need to install the SMP monitor separately (should be an install option during installation of the OS). But in either case, xWorkPlace does a nicer job...





Also, for you or anyone else with a Netfinity or xServer:

http://www.aibuiltpc.com/IBM_Server/ServeRAID_Comparison_Guide.pdf
(fixed URL)

Lists which ServeRAID cards are compatible with OS/2 - note, not all are compatible with every model Netfinity or xServer.

-Robert


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Ben

Quote from: RobertM on 2008.07.27, 23:55:24
Also, for you or anyone else with a Netfinity or xServer:

http://www.aibuiltpc.com/IBM_Servers/ServeRAID_Comparison_Guide.pdf

Lists which ServeRAID cards are compatible with OS/2 - note, not all are compatible with every model Netfinity or xServer.

-Robert
Hail, RobertM.

When I gave the above link a go, it yielded the following error;

                         "The file does not exist or is read-protected.

                         Please check the URL and try again."

Did you mis-type it? or have they removed it?

Thanks.

RobertM

Quote from: Ben on 2008.07.28, 04:41:25
Quote from: RobertM on 2008.07.27, 23:55:24
Also, for you or anyone else with a Netfinity or xServer:

http://www.aibuiltpc.com/IBM_Servers/ServeRAID_Comparison_Guide.pdf

Lists which ServeRAID cards are compatible with OS/2 - note, not all are compatible with every model Netfinity or xServer.

-Robert
Hail, RobertM.

When I gave the above link a go, it yielded the following error;

                         "The file does not exist or is read-protected.

                         Please check the URL and try again."

Did you mis-type it? or have they removed it?

Thanks.


"They" would be me... so sadly that means I mis-typed it. Sorry. Try this one:

http://www.aibuiltpc.com/IBM_Server/ServeRAID_Comparison_Guide.pdf

Note, this only covers their newer ServeRAID Cards (there are plenty of old ones in the 3 and 4 series that work with OS/2 as well).

Sorry gang... fixing original post as well...


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ModZilla

Excellent, will execute the OS/2 Warp Server Advanced V4 with SMP postehaste and deal with SATA issues later, I had no idea that Warp would work with anything above 468 on Asus period, and I am not surprised the quad cpu board could take on Warp without a hitch, will report back, I know this thing -5500- is old but it will be fun before trying to get up to speed on modern resources like dual cores et al...maybe when I do get to that point it will be time to move on, to ECs that is...I guess I could make a boot partition that allows Warp, Ubuntu, Madriva, UNIX with VM ware running the whole show, eh...?

Many thanks again for the inspiration RobertM, now I will be perspiring for a day or so...but not because of the heat!

MZ
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

ModZilla

QUOTE fr RobertM { "I had Intellistations that the BIOS got updated on which could support the difficult to find 1.1GHz P3 Xeon's, while my Netfinity 7000 M10 BIOS was only upgraded to support 550MHz P3 Xeon's - which is the place where the CPU core changed) ...}" May I ask a silly question here and thanks for the compliments on the M20 box, ok the 550 Mhz cpus match FSB of the board in situ, right? So when Intel doubled the speed of the PIII  by design of the core to a 1.1gig, you have to swap out the mobo respective of that-[Ive been told that many people who still use PIIIs as higher speed downscale servers for print and lan servers on the bottom end of their hardware spectrum instead of throwing them out in the dumpster; we did this at the base for the ACOE before eventually scrapping everything when our contract ran out...] I'd like to raise the speed instead of maxing out Ram, which I do have; ultimately I would have a server for IBMshow that would dazzle the kids...but as it turns out I wont make WarpStock :(tears tears)

also to quote you: {"You also may wish to install the Netfinity Manager software on the machine... it's a pretty nice little machine, and a machine IBM Certified for OS/2.e..."} and I suppose this will help the old machine along too, heard of but never used Netfinity Manager on the beast...


someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

RobertM

Quote from: ModZilla on 2008.07.30, 17:06:01
QUOTE fr RobertM { "I had Intellistations that the BIOS got updated on which could support the difficult to find 1.1GHz P3 Xeon's, while my Netfinity 7000 M10 BIOS was only upgraded to support 550MHz P3 Xeon's - which is the place where the CPU core changed) ...}" May I ask a silly question here and thanks for the compliments on the M20 box, ok the 550 Mhz cpus match FSB of the board in situ, right? So when Intel doubled the speed of the PIII  by design of the core to a 1.1gig, you have to swap out the mobo respective of that-


No, the PII (2), and PIII (3) CPU's that will fit the Netfinity 5500/7000 series (and various Intellistation dual CPU systems) have a 100MHz FSB. That same physical) design CPU goes to higher speed (but the core changed) with no change in the FSB. At around the 800MHz range, they started cranking out 133MHz FSB versions as well (which may or may not work on the Intellistations and the 5500 - and WILL NOT work on the 7000). But during that same time, they also released 100MHz FSB versions.

The FSB speed isnt that important on a big Netfinity (especially quad CPU) anyway, and especially when running OS/2 WS. I mean, it helps if it is faster, but OS/2 makes amazing use of multiple CPUs which helps offset the slower FSB because 4 threads can be executing at a time. (It of course WILL be noticable in monolithic, single threaded things making high use of the CPU). The other advantage is a decently fast set of internal data buses, most of which have their own specialized controller chips to run them and direct traffic to whichever bus it should go to.

The key is, you need PIII, 100MHz FSB, same CPU package/pinouts - and a BIOS that supports the newer cores. Thing to do is check the BIOS notes from all BIOS updates since the machine's release. IBM is pretty thorough in listing BIOS mods that allow support for other/faster CPUs.

Quote from: ModZilla on 2008.07.30, 17:06:01
also to quote you: {"You also may wish to install the Netfinity Manager software on the machine... it's a pretty nice little machine, and a machine IBM Certified for OS/2.e..."} and I suppose this will help the old machine along too, heard of but never used Netfinity Manager on the beast...


Nah... it's just really neat to have.

Well, actually, you could use it for remote system event monitoring... as you may have noticed, if you have played with the machine, it is very thorough in monitoring itself... pull a hot swap fan for instance... it will report it. A fan dies, an assembly is about to fail, etc...

Some of the best technology that was in the PS/2 line has been incorporated into the Netfinity line - and where non-IBM technology did not support it (like for instance, the way the PS/2 line handled bus mastering and interrupts), IBM got around it with multiple separate PCI buses and controllers. The neat predictive failure analysis tools, and hardware monitoring and such is one of the things that made it over to the Netfinity line.

Oh - it also supports monitoring via SNMP... and the controller board that does it is a battery backed-up always-on device. Pretty sure the 5500 comes with one... have never seen a big Netfinity that doesnt.

-Robert


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ModZilla

thx a heap for the info on the server install/ monitoring the Netfinity hardware/cpu loads, that will be
interesting to use once its all up and running; as far as software I have a heap of disks that I guess have no importance here; but I have presentation manager, token ring manager and stuff on IBM floppies, if its of any use to anyone, I no longer show or display them; will post on the website in the slide show just for/as memorabilia...the link you corrected I tried this AM, the browser spins and spins on my G3 connection and never connects...maybe the server there has no load balancing  or has no local DNS turned on?

Many kudos for your guidance here Robert and taking the time...!
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