• Welcome to OS2World OLD-STATIC-BACKUP Forum.
 

News:

This is an old OS2World backup forum for reference only. IT IS READ ONLY!!!

If you need help with OS/2 - eComStation visit http://www.os2world.com/forum

Main Menu

How ican join OS/2 on active directory

Started by max, 2007.09.19, 07:46:30

Previous topic - Next topic

Saijin_Naib

Okay, I have followed your instructions and here is what the File & Print Resource Viewer shows under eCS. As you can see, its quite a different picture. WinXP shows 42 shares, eCS only 6. Why is this? Im quite terrible with networking, and I don't really know much about it, so please excuse me if I am asking a stupid question here.

os2monkey

Hi Saijin_Naib,

It's not at all a stupid question - it is a bit of a mystery.
Let me just ask:
(1) Is your network using a domain setup or simple workgroup only - meaning do you have a central server that all of the computers login to, or have you just setup each machine to have the same network workgroup name and connect to each individually?.
(2) The 6 computers that you can see from ECS,  are any of them windows machines? (I see two of them are alternatives OS's - one being a mac and one ECS apparently. So I was just curious if all of the visable ones are not windows machines or if you have any windows machines visable from ECS).
(3) With the 6 that you do see, how do they logging into the network?

On the positive side it seems you have to ECS end setup correctly, if you can see ANY machines from it. I would think this problem is likely on other side.

os2monkey

OH I just realizes you said this is a school network. So maybe you don't have access to answer all of those questions?
Well just let me know if you do know, for example, if those 6 computers are not windows machines.

Saijin_Naib

#18
The first eCS machine is my own :)
I believe the other machines are all OS-X machines :\
I think my network is just a series of Workgroups. I can browse them all using WindowsXP so I can see what other workgroups are there.

Can I not see the windows machines because of something? Is this what the Samba Client is for?

Below is what the Windows Network browser shows me for the top-level workgroup listing.

os2monkey

Hello Saijin_Naib,
This is my guess as to what is happening:
For ECS to see each windows machine on the network (and for windows machines to see your ecs machine) - each of the windows machines must have some minor changes to the windows registry changes (like changing LMANNOUNCE in step 4 on my original post).
Since I assume you do not have access to these machines (other students) and they likely didn't make those changes, you would not be able to see them in your network browser on os/2. If you have a friend with a windows machine (and they don't mind you messing with thier system) you could test this theory by making the registry changes I discussed.
It seems mac os x doesn't have that issue and allows you to see them correctly by default.. dam microsoft! :).
So you could theoretically make it work if you go to every other computer on the network and make the registry changes needed :)..

I'm not sure if you used a samba client if you would still need to make those registry changes on the windows machines or not - maybe the samba client would make your ecs machine act like a windows machine and therefore make the registry changes no longer needed. Unfortunatly I do not have experience with samba on os/2.
Let me know if i'm making any sense or not.


Blondzer

I'm in a difficult position. Our Domain is Currently NT4, This is now migrating to AD 2003. What this means is, we will no longer have control of our Domain. So I wont be able to make any changes to the DC.
Our OS/2 Box network settings is authenticating against our NT Domain. We don't connect to any shares and don't exactly logon. Our Serives run in real time and connect to a Sybase DB over name pipes. does anybody now if NamePipes is dependant on OS/2 having authenticated on a AD level?

Thanks again

RobertM

Hi Blondzer,

Though I am not sure, I would guess since all of the NamedPipes implementations I have played with are in the format SERVERNAME\\PIPE that the machine would need to be authenticated in some fashion, whether in the share environment or in the domain environment. That would make the most sense to me, but I have virtually no familiarity with NT/Server 2K3 setups so am not sure (I would think it a glaring security hole though, if the server or other workstations would accept connections from a NamedPipe from an un-authenticated machine - though MS may disagree)

-Robert


|
|
Kirk's 5 Year Mission Continues at:
Star Trek New Voyages
|
|


Saijin_Naib

#22
Yeah, you are making sense. I cant go around making registry changes however :P
I gotta see what the deal with Samba is and how I can use it to get on the network here...
Okay, so without any modification my roommate can see my eCS machine perfectly, as well as any shares I have. He can also access my shares without any issue what-so-ever! So it works in one direction, so I guess thats not a bad thing. I however, still can not see anything but the OSX machines on my network. I had him add the lmanannounce key to his registry to see if I can then see him on the network as well, but it had no effect. He can also see an Ubuntu machine on the network.

Paul Smedley

Quote from: max on 2007.09.19, 07:46:30
I'm having problem adding os/2 warp into active directory.How i can  map os2 on my file server running windows 2003 active directory.

FWIW - some progress is being made on this.  Using a java kerberos client, and a kerberos enabled build of samba, we've been able to browse resources on a win2k03 server using eCS.

Next I need to debug why kinit (from kerberos) isn't working correctly, and integrate the necessary changes into Netdrive to make the access more seamless.

Stay tuned.....

Cheers,

Paul.

Paul Smedley

Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.11.20, 04:19:45
Quote from: max on 2007.09.19, 07:46:30
I'm having problem adding os/2 warp into active directory.How i can  map os2 on my file server running windows 2003 active directory.

FWIW - some progress is being made on this.  Using a java kerberos client, and a kerberos enabled build of samba, we've been able to browse resources on a win2k03 server using eCS.

Next I need to debug why kinit (from kerberos) isn't working correctly, and integrate the necessary changes into Netdrive to make the access more seamless.

Stay tuned.....

Update: I hacked the source for smbcd.exe and once you're authenticated with kinit (the Java version) I've successfully browsed a share on a Windows 2003 server using Netdrive.

Still working on debugging the C version of kinit - looks like a select() call is the problem, but if anyone wants to play around - please contact me for a kerberos enabled smbcd.exe and a mudmap of how to set it up - paul at smedley dot id dot au.

Cheers,

Paul.

El Vato

An open source entry level solution from LikeWise (at LinuxWorld 2007, the organization still called itself Centeris) might speed up and simplify this ongoing effort on the OS/2 side.

The binary distribution for certain Linux distros, as well as the source for the (AD client) LikeWise Open agent, are available by selecting the Download tab at their website.  Users, system admins, as well as developers, are encouraged to contribute to the LikeWise Open project.  However, if you are a developer and want to contribute with your efforts, you are forewarned that you should not have signed a pact with MS:

Important: In order to avoid any potential licensing issues we require that anyone who has signed the Microsoft CIFS Royalty Free Agreement not submit patches to Likewise Open, nor base patches on the referenced specification. We require, too, that patches submitted to Likewise Open not infringe on any known patents. Finally, as with all GPL work, the submitter should ensure that submitted patches do not conflict with any third-party copyright

Cheers!

Blonde Guy

It looks like this thread ended without coming to a working conclusion.

I've got access to the Windows 2003 AD domain again, and I'd like to continue trying to browse shares.

Like most people attempting to do this, I had everything working with Windows 2000 server and OS/2 File and Print Client, but the Windows network changed and I'm no longer able to do anything useful on the network.

Also like most people trying to do this, I have a very limited understanding of Windows 2003 AD networking.

Does anyone have progress to report, or suggestion of how to continue?

I posted the NetDrive SMB plugin settings -- there appears to be little or no documentation of what the parameters mean. Even if the SAMBA client does work, I'd need to have some guidance to set those parameters.

Anyone else still trying to get this working?
Expert Consulting for OS/2 and eComStation

RobertM

#27
I (a client) has an eCS machine hooked up to the same network as a Windows 2003 AD setup. I'll see if I can figure something out there the next time I am out there, failing someone else coming up with a solution.

Anyone who has ideas, please post them... I may not get to this until late August - and even then, I'll be fiddling around to try to make it work... very limited experience with AD here.

In the meantime, I did find this post that seem to indicate some possible things to try:

(Enabling Mixed Mode for AD):
http://www.computing.net/answers/os2/os2-warp-and-ms-active-directory/2225.html



Robert


|
|
Kirk's 5 Year Mission Continues at:
Star Trek New Voyages
|
|