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Off Topic: NETBEUI - File sharing between OS/2 and Windows XP

Started by saborion2, 2008.09.23, 06:36:04

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saborion2

Quote from: miturbide on 2008.09.23, 05:48:17
Thanks for the links !!!

Hi Martin,

How about starting an Off-Topic Thread Re: "File sharing between OS/2 and Windows XP" as I am curious to know what exactly you are doing in view and in light of the emergence of standardized applications and other issues regarding "i_n_t_e_r_o_p_e_r_a_b_i_l_i_t_y".

Were you able to glean any information from the SAMBA site?

Best regards.

saborion2

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.09.23, 06:36:04
Quote from: miturbide on 2008.09.23, 05:48:17
Thanks for the links !!!

Hi Martin,

How about starting an Off-Topic Thread Re: "File sharing between OS/2 and Windows XP" as I am curious to know what exactly you are doing in view and in light of the emergence of standardized applications and other issues regarding "i_n_t_e_r_o_p_e_r_a_b_i_l_i_t_y".

Were you able to glean any information from the SAMBA site?

Best regards.


Here is one of the reasons for the creation of an Off-Topic Thread:

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IBM to shun 'rogue' standards bodies

[..... Product incompatibilities are fairly common, such as competing formats for high-definition DVDs. But standards are becoming increasingly important, touching the health care, public safety, and industrial sectors of the economy, IBM said.

Standards Ecma International was harshly criticized by IBM and other companies earlier this year for its role in standardizing Office Open XML, Microsoft Office-derived file formats.

Microsoft succeeded in having Open XML standardized by Ecma International and then the ISO (International Organization for Standardization). It was an effort to appeal to governments and large business customers concerned with long-term document retention.

There was active lobbying on both sides of the debate in the run-up to the vote with a number of national standards bodies complaining that the specification was not appropriately vetted....]

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10048497-92.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0


Here is the question that arises with regards to "File sharing between OS/2 and Windows XP": How do one safeguard against "product incompatibilities" between files created while running OS/2-eCS and those created while running Windows?

RobertM

SAB: You can create your own off-topic thread any time you want. You dont need to post a massive off-topic message and also request someone else do it.


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saborion2

Quote from: RobertM on 2008.09.24, 01:07:34
SAB: You can create your own off-topic thread any time you want. You dont need to post a massive off-topic message and also request someone else do it.

I appreciate the "help"... RobertM; as, in this way I cannot be accused of single handedly taking the thread Off-Topic (in these times one has got to be mindful of the choice of words; so, I prefer not to use the "h"-word.  8) ) or have the posts removed and the messages never get delivered. ;) Now, back to the questions.... And, an additional one would be: Why bother soooo.... much with the exchange of applications out of different "boxes" (through different Operating Systems) when certain trends suggest that certain tasks can easily be accomplished by way of "Web-Based Applications" with a simple "browser" over ; and, Blah De Blah!  ;D

herwigb

Regarding NetBEUI filesharing between OS/2 and Windows XP:

Basically this works, BUT the XP machine will exhaust some ressource on the OS/2 machine after some time. The OS/2 machine refuses further login attempts then. Sometimes this can be cured by stopping and restarting Peer and Requester, but sometimes you have to reboot the machine. There are various tips around (configuration settings on the OS/2 machine, registry tweaks on the XP machine) but none of these tips provide long term usability - after a few days the OS/2 machine will definitely refuse further connections.... :(

These days the better choice is definitely the Samba Server on eCS http://members.aon.at/herwig.bauernfeind/samba/index.html (hint, hint  ;) ).

Kind regards,
Herwig
Kind regards,
HerwigB.

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Hi Herwig,

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Basically this works, BUT the XP machine will exhaust some ressource on the OS/2 machine after some time. The OS/2 machine refuses further login attempts then. Sometimes this can be cured by stopping and restarting Peer and Requester, but sometimes you have to reboot the machine. There are various tips around (configuration settings on the OS/2 machine, registry tweaks on the XP machine) but none of these tips provide long term usability - after a few days the OS/2 machine will definitely refuse further connections.... Sad

I thought that was only relevant to NetBEUI/Netbios over TCP/IP, I haven't seen that problem with a local company that I have set up an OS/2 server for, and 8 XP PC's as the clients, all using standard NetBEUI, not NetBEUI over TCP/IP. They tend to leave everything running all the time.

Though if you want to use NetBEUI/Netbios over TCP/IP then Samba is definitely the way to go.

Cheers
Ian Manners
I am the computer, it is me.

herwigb

Hi Ian,

very interesting.

No, it is a plain NetBEUI environment on the OS/2 Peer server machine and there are only 3 client XP machines and one additional 1 OS/2 client, I never managed that they could leave the server running for more than a week, or so.

I solved the problem by also setting up Samba on the OS/2 server machine, which now has 2 "heads": One NetBEUI - Peer for the OS/2 Client (also needs a serial device shared) and TCP/IP - Samba for the Windows machines.

Kind regards,
Herwig
Kind regards,
HerwigB.

saborion2

Re:

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Mundie: The cloud needs killer apps

Still, Mundie acknowledged that most people "don't choose Windows...they choose applications. It's the killer apps people are choosing and that will be true in the next generation" of computing.

"I think that will be true as we go forward with this new composite platform. People won't really care what the iron is, or the underlying OS."

Mundie's comments underscore a primary concern for Microsoft, as cloud computing becomes more widespread: How does the company keep Windows relevant?

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1001_3-10050816-92.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.0


It is believed that the above argument has some relevance to the OS/2-eCS Operating Systems... and how to keep these relevant too - moving forward.

What do others think about the future of OS/2-eCS in relation the development with regards to Cloud Computing and the Killer Applications that are being talked and may be needed!  8)

Best regards.