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ACPI shutdown on rc6 gives reboot

Started by warpcafe, 2009.01.24, 19:30:44

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warpcafe

Gents,

yeah, I know that RC6a is out and I'm running outdated versions here (sorry, I'm getting tired of running after new RC CDs...) - nevertheless:
When I try to shutdown my machine, it initially looks OK and the whole thing is taken out of eCS, down to a black screen with the machine fans going slower and slower... until everything is silent... and THEN the crap reboots.

Does anybody have an idea what magic "acpi switches" I need to try to see if it/they help?

TIA,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

Pete

Hi Thomas

Is that eShutdown or eStyler shutdown?

If eShutdown then check that ACPI is selected as the shutdown method - Desktop Properties -> eShutdown - that has been the cause of that problem here.

If eStyler then you need to login at the ecS Bugtracker and find the bug about eStyler - there is a fix that works fairly well and the only download link for it that I know of is in that bug discussion - possibly 001527.

When asking for advice about what switches to use on the PSD=ACPI.PSD line it is advisable to specify the chipset involved - helps to avoid trying tips that work great on totally different chipsets  :-)


Regards

Pete



Blonde Guy

I had this on a machine I built recently. The culprit was my monitor. The monitor had a USB hub, and I'd plugged that into the computer. When I shutdown, the computer would instantly reboot.

There was a jumper on the motherboard to allow the computer to boot on a signal from a USB device. I had this jumper set to disable the boot. When I changed the jumper to enable booting, the computer would shutdown and stay off. I guess the documentation for the motherboard was backwards.
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warpcafe

Hi Pete,

Quote from: Pete on 2009.01.25, 02:35:11
Is that eShutdown or eStyler shutdown?

... eShutdown.

Quote from: Pete on 2009.01.25, 02:35:11
If eShutdown then check that ACPI is selected as the shutdown method - Desktop Properties -> eShutdown - that has been the cause of that problem here.

Yep, ACPI is selected as the shutdown method. Interestingly, the APM is greyed out (disabled) and not even selectable... although APM drivers are present in config.sys... hmm... I remember some side-notes on WSE2008 about "APM being disabled in RC6 - but back in RC6a". Hm.

Quote from: Pete on 2009.01.25, 02:35:11
When asking for advice about what switches to use on the PSD=ACPI.PSD line it is advisable to specify the chipset involved - helps to avoid trying tips that work great on totally different chipsets  :-)

I know, was just too lazy yesterday evening. ;) Also I dropped an email at ecosoft asking them what debug/log files I need to send them in order to enable them to further investigate on that issue. We'll see.
In the meantime, I'll sneak around Mensys' Mantis and the usual newsgroups... I'm sure I'm not the only one having the problem (although I bet I'm the only one still using rc6 instead of rc6a... :) )

Thanks, regards,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

warpcafe

Hey,

Quote from: Blonde Guy on 2009.01.25, 03:22:14
I had this on a machine I built recently. The culprit was my monitor. The monitor had a USB hub, and I'd plugged that into the computer. When I shutdown, the computer would instantly reboot.

There was a jumper on the motherboard to allow the computer to boot on a signal from a USB device. I had this jumper set to disable the boot. When I changed the jumper to enable booting, the computer would shutdown and stay off. I guess the documentation for the motherboard was backwards.

Now, THAT is interesting. I'll check for the BIOS settings (one more...;) ) in this regards. I don't have a USB monitor however a USB 2.0 hub and other cabled crap - who knows how that might relate. I must admit that it really looks strange from the operating systems point of view (the OS being able to control ACPI in that way). I'm sure it must be some kind of flaw in how ACPI is being implemented by the machines BIOS (wouldn't be the first model to use non-100%-compliant implementation of industry standards... :) ).

Perhaps needless to say: XP has no problems in shutting down the machine. :)

Thanks for the hints - I'll give it a try and let you know once resolved (or not).


Regards,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

DougB

My brother has a machine (Gigabyte 7IXE motherboard), that simply reboots, when power off is requested. It does it with APM, or ACPI, so neither one of them is directly at fault. WinXP, of course, works fine. My suspicion is, that Windows simply loops on the power off command, until the machine actually powers off, while OS/2, using APM, or ACPI, simply issues the power off command once, then waits for it to happen. The result appears to be, that the power off doesn't happen, and the power supply sees the "glitch" as being a reset signal, which initiates a power on sequence (reboot <- You can hear something click, at the time that it should turn off). BIOS settings make no difference, so my brother simply waits for the POST, and holds the power off switch, until it does go off. That motherboard will be replaced (it is old), the next time I get to visit him, but I don't believe that the motherboard is defective, I think it may just be a bad design (may be in the BIOS, which could also be used in other motherboards), that the windows wizards have worked around.