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Great news. Probably not good enough to make me reformat my Win7 test drive to put eCS back on, but still great news. I'm really glad for you guys, hopefully a JRE follows suit soon.

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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #1 on: 2009.05.29, 08:12:20 »
AFAIK Flash 10 is still far from releasing even a alpha prerelease. And while others talk only about using it to watch video, I'm interested mainly in supporting newer flash games wich doesn't work with current Flash7. I'm know that my kids will love this.  :)
Also, anyone noticed that Flash 10 for Linux is 3.77 Mb, while same WinBlows version goes up to 62.7 Mb ???  ;D
« Last Edit: 2009.05.29, 08:36:04 by cyber »

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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #2 on: 2009.05.29, 19:09:18 »
Cyber, maybe that is only the flash specific libs while the other libs Flash depends upon are already downloaded for other apps? I've had to download 10s of pacakges of libs to meet some dependency for some small app its ridiculous. Good thing Synaptic handles it all for me.

I like watching Flash videos, but being able to navigate flash-centric websites is more important.

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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #3 on: 2009.06.01, 09:51:41 »
Cyber, maybe that is only the flash specific libs while the other libs Flash depends upon are already downloaded for other apps? I've had to download 10s of pacakges of libs to meet some dependency for some small app its ridiculous. Good thing Synaptic handles it all for me.

Yes... You may have right, but anyway, i suppose that complete package with all dependecies for Linux is still about 10x smaller than Win version. :) I hope that OS/2 (eCS) version will be same small and effective and like versions 5 and 7 faster than Win-ones. :)

I like watching Flash videos, but being able to navigate flash-centric websites is more important.

Well, I wasn't check this for quite while, but last time have YouTube flash videos in FF window without any special setup. Slow connection and lazy-to-wait make me mostly download 'em and convert 'em in to my smartphone supported format, and watch later usualy using SEM600i or Linux based netbook.
Navigate trough flash sites isn't something I can convert and use later.  :'(
This is point where eCS/2 lose breath with competition, and I just can't understand how Serenity/Mensys ignore this; having E-COM-station named OS without usable modern e-com ability with outdated Java and outdated Flash. :)
As proven fanatic/2 8) I pretend that this isn't important.   But sometimes is !!!  >:(
« Last Edit: 2009.06.01, 10:06:27 by cyber »

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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #4 on: 2009.07.04, 15:40:44 »
What I wonder is why they are bothering with the proprietary Flash when they could extend Gnash and port it to eCS?

The Open Media Now! summer project to add in the necessary ActionScript 2 and 3 classes to bring Flash support up to version 9 and 10 is underway, and they could probably use the help from Serenity or the OS/2 community....

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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #5 on: 2009.07.04, 16:05:41 »
If you look at the resources available, the easiest way forward is to continue to use the Windows Flash player in an ODIN container. Gnash is, at least on eCS, far from able to work on a new site. It is currently will behind the Flash 7 many of us are using. Extending it is probably 100's of times more work.

Assuming that the new Flash runs only on eCS, this may bring in lots of OS purchases for Mensys. Looking at online site navigation and video most sites that I cannot currently access are requiring Flash 9 or 10. The new Flash 10 will likely remove a lot of barriers for casual internet use.

I'm a Mensys reseller. I want to get the major impediments out of the way. I need eCS machines that are reliable, and that can do the basic things expected of a PC. I already am getting a few new eCS users. The lack Flash 10 is the biggest impediment to selling eCS to new users.
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Re: A quick update on Flash 10 for eComStation (from Mensys)
« Reply #6 on: 2009.07.06, 00:34:46 »
Cyber, maybe that is only the flash specific libs while the other libs Flash depends upon are already downloaded for other apps? I've had to download 10s of pacakges of libs to meet some dependency for some small app its ridiculous. Good thing Synaptic handles it all for me.

Yes... You may have right, but anyway, i suppose that complete package with all dependecies for Linux is still about 10x smaller than Win version. :) I hope that OS/2 (eCS) version will be same small and effective and like versions 5 and 7 faster than Win-ones. :)


Sadly, while this seems to be the case in lots of areas, without a few of the *nix compilers fully up to date, it seems an Odinized Win app is still the easier method. And in this particular case, access to the (from what I understand buggy) Linux flash version would be a requirement.

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