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Solid State Drives (SSD)

Started by kim, 2010.03.19, 10:52:22

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kim

Question regarding solid state drives; when checking Swedish site Prisjakt.nu (PriceHunter) for the most popular drives the list of the top 10 drives are:


  • Intel X25-M G2 80GB
  • Intel X25-V G2 40GB
  • Intel X25-M G2 160GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV125-S2 64GB
  • OCZ Vertex Limited Edition SATA II 2.5" SSD 100GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2 128GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV425-S2 64GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V+ Series SNVP325-S2 64GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV425-S2 128GB
  • Kingston SSDNow V Series SNV125-S2 128GB

Guess that Intel shows great numbers for read access but the write access isn't that great compare to both Kingston and OZC, Corsair drives. But, what also makes the different if the drive has cache or not; drives without cache will often show terrible values during software installation.

So the question is quite simple; what is your experience regarding solid state drives in general and together with OS/2? I assume that a well optimized OS/2 would be able to boot quite fast using solid state drives...


BigWarpGuy

I don't have any experience with OS/2 or eCS on a computer with SSD. I do have two netbooks with SSD's. They boot pretty fast. I am hoping to try eCS on one of my netbooks; one is an Acer Aspire One and the other is a Asus EEE 701a. The Acer has Win XP on it. The other has FreeDOS on it. I had upgrade the SSD in my 701a and it has more RAM than what it came with (32 gig SSD and 1 Gig ram; IIRC). :)

Raiko

I have good experience with the G.Skill Falcon 128GB SSD. The whole system feels much better
than with any other hdd I've used.
http://www.os2world.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,63/topic,1707.msg11670/#msg11670

kim

#3
BWG: Would you mind to benchmark the system using XP using HD Tune including adding a few lines of the hardware specs? For example here is my benchmark value for my T60 using XP SP3:

System: ThinkPad T60
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
Memory: 4GB (3GB available)
OS: Win XP SP3
Drive: WD Scorpio Black 320 GB, SATA 3 Gb/s, 16 MB Cache, 7200 RPM [more]
HD Tune - Read (min): 79.1 MB/s
HD Tune - Read (max): 86.7 MB/s
HD Tune - Read (ave): -
HD Tune - Access time: -
HD Tune - Burst rate: -

Unfortunate I get error on the last 3 values and don't know why; but would be great to get some numbers.

Raiko

This is what I got with HD Tune:

System: ThinkCentre M57
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.49GHz
Memory: 2GB
OS: Win XP SP3
Drive: G.Skill Falcon 128GB SSD
HD Tune - Read (min): 190.4 MB/s
HD Tune - Read (max): 209.9 MB/s
HD Tune - Read (ave): - no value displayed
Unchecked Transfer rate, then Start:
HD Tune - Access time: 0,1 ms
HD Tune - Burst rate: 216,2 MB/s

Saijin_Naib

Kim, I'm VERY happy with my Patriot PS-100 drive. It is now about 90$ US for 32gb. I use it for boot drive and keep my data on a Western Digital Green 500gb drive. Here are the numbers:

PS-100
[]CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (5 passes, 50mb, NTFS drive)
Sequential: 227.4MBps READ | 123.5MBps WRITE
512k: 201.1MBps READ | 59.17MBps WRITE
4k: 10.66MBps READ | 24.02MBps WRITE

WD-5000AADS
[]CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (5 passes, 50mb, NTFS drive)
Sequential: 143.0MBps READ | 103.8MBps WRITE
512k: 32.55MBps READ | 110.0MBps WRITE
4k: 1.040MBps READ | 1.277MBps WRITE

kim

Ok, tested the WD 320GB drive as well with CrystalDiskMark 3.0 as well; here is the results:


WD Scorpio Black 320 GB
[]CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (5 passes, 1000MB, NTFS drive)
Sequential: 62.03MBps READ | 60.10MBps WRITE
512k: 27.79MBps READ | 44.25MBps WRITE
4k: 0.627MBps READ | 1.356MBps WRITE
4k QD32: 1.235MBps READ | 1.406MBps WRITE


WD Scorpio Black 320 GB
[]CrystalDiskMark 2.2 (5 passes, 50mb, NTFS drive)
Sequential: 82.28MBps READ | 78.19MBps WRITE
512k: 41.86MBps READ | 63.88MBps WRITE
4k: 0.793MBps READ | 1.638MBps WRITE
4k QD32: 1.136MBps READ | 1.818MBps WRITE

Hmmm you got way better numbers on the WD-5000AADS drive compared to WD Scorpia Black that I use. Guess that it could be the different version; but then again that huge different is kind of odd. Actually the numbers seem too good; would you mind re-run the test with version 3.0 of CrystalDiskMark?

Saijin_Naib

#7
WD-5000AADS
[]CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (5 passes, 50mb, NTFS drive)
Sequential: 120.3MBps READ | 101.4MBps WRITE
512k: 32.26MBps READ | 79.39MBps WRITE
4k: 0.795MBps READ | 0.950MBps WRITE
4k QD32: 1.396MBps READ | 0.915MBps WRITE

I have AHCI Advanced mode turned on in BIOS, NCQ support enabled, Intel Matrix Storage Driver for UDMA support. Also, the 5000AADS is a single platter 500gb drive with 32mb cache, it performs MUCH better than the multi-platter Green drives and the older Green drives with 16mb cache.

Also, the benchmark from version 2.2 was when the drive was relatively empty of data. Now it has much more data, which I believe has lead to the minor degradation in disk performance. However, this drive has performed above and beyond my expectations and I couldn't be happier.

rwklein

We have a test system in the Mensys office. And with a SSD Intel HDD (don't have model number handy) boot time from eCS boot blop to loaded desktop with ecenter, 21 seconds!

Roderick Klein
Mensys

Blonde Guy

I've got a Thinkpad X41 with an IBM 64 GB SSD made for that model. It's fast to boot, and fast for almost everything. The original used a 1.8 inch hard drive, so the SSD is a huge improvement.

It's available in my store: http://www.blondeguy.com/ComputersForSale.html

Loading big applications seems slow only because everything else is so fast. I'm really liking the small size and long battery life of the computer. I think SSD is good news for eCS users.
Expert Consulting for OS/2 and eComStation

CDRWSel

I have the G.Skill Falcon 128GB SSD .
Very good since I upgraded from firmware 1819 to 1916 level (perfs are back again)
HDtune
Minimum: 197.1 MB/sec
Maximum: 245.3 MB/sec
Average: 223.2 MB/sec
Access Time: 0.1ms
Burst Rate: 168.7 MB/sec

Under BenchATTO:
Write is near 190241 for tests from 128 to 8192
Read is near 262528 for tests from 128 to 8192   
   
(Best perfs are using Enhanced IDE mode - Don't use AHCI which may degrade SSD perfs longer it is used)

Under eCS, same high performance.
May be new  Corsair  Force 100 Go S-ATA II  may be a killer in perfs (using sandforce) !