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Dennis

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HELP!!!!!!!
« on: 2010.03.22, 15:06:56 »
Yesterday, my laptop booted with no problem. I shut it down properly (ACPI) last night. This morning, the boot process goes so far as showing me that it is archiving and then freezes. I have tried the Alt-F1 to get to the archives so I could boot from yesterdays archive, but when I get the blue screen listing all the possibilities--including yesterdays archive, it won't let me do anything--I try to chose an archive to boot from and the system just beeps (when I push any key) and does nothing!
I'm running ECS 2.0, rc1.6a. (at least that's what the eCs screen tells me...)

Thanks in advance for your help. All my records are on that system!

PS-- It won't even go into the boot sequence now. Shows an exception in Module HPFSMINI. Now what do I do?
       Do you need all the numbers/letters from the Trap 000d?
       Tried re-installing eCs. Won't work--font too large for screen and can't adjust smaller.
« Last Edit: 2010.03.22, 16:40:55 by Dennis »

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: 2010.03.22, 16:43:49 »
Hi Dennis,

Can you boot from the installation CD and go to the maintenance console?
Do a check disk?
First without writing corrections to the disk, then use dfsee.
Perhaps check how much data you have left free on the drive?
Is it possible that the disk may be failing?



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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: 2010.03.22, 16:45:39 »
Also, how big is your HPFS volume?

Hi Dennis,

Can you boot from the installation CD and go to the maintenance console?
Do a check disk?
First without writing corrections to the disk, then use dfsee.
Perhaps check how much data you have left free on the drive?
Is it possible that the disk may be failing?




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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: 2010.03.22, 17:17:20 »
 1. Cannot boot from HDD at all, so can't do CHKDSK
 2. Cannot boot from Installation CD.
       Both ways go into Exception in Module HPFSMINI  Trap000d
 3. Without being able to boot either way, I am not able to do anything else.

I think the HDD failed, since the system won't read it or the installation cd
« Last Edit: 2010.03.22, 17:26:14 by Dennis »

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: 2010.03.22, 22:19:14 »
Hi Dennis

Have you tried looking at the disk when booted using the DFSee bootable CD?

Possibly related: I thought I had a disk fail recently when the system crashed after delivering a series of beeps indicating a possible hardware failure. The system failed to reboot, did not display the Boot Manager screen, and I could not boot from the eCS2.0RC7 CD - until I deselected the disk integrety check option.

Having booted from CD succesfully to a Maintenance Console I ran chkdsk against all drives and could access drive contents without any problem. I then ran LVM and it looked like Boot Manager was still installed so I rebooted from hard drive - and Boot Manager failed to appear.

I rebooted from CD, ran LVM and deleted Boot Manager, reinstalled it and added the bootable volumes to the menu. I then tried rebooting from hard drive and all worked fine.

I do not have any real idea of where the problem came from but it would seem something had buggered Boot Manager - at the time of the crash I was running Seamonkey and wonder if some nasty bit of software had managed to download itself onto my system and attack the Boot Manager partition.

This was about 2 weeks ago so if a disk had been on the point of failure I would have expected it to have failed totally by now.

So, make sure the drive has failed before binning it.

Regards

Pete


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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: 2010.03.23, 02:18:18 »
Pete

Disk integrity option? Is that where it offers to check the cd for read errors? If not, what is it--chkdsk?

I can now get to the Welcome screen of the ecs installer, but the font is too large for my screen. Alt- only beeps. Doesn't make the font smaller. I am unable to see the buttons on the bottom. Using tab, I can get to the 'Next' button and go to the License Agreement screen. Cannot go on from there. All it does is go back & forth between the Welcome screen and the License Agreement screen.
« Last Edit: 2010.03.23, 02:34:55 by Dennis »

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: 2010.03.23, 03:03:26 »
OK, this is weird...
The system now goes thru the boot sequence from the HDD, gets into the Config.Sys file, and stops. A message box labelled 'Workplace Shell' appears on a gray screen. The message follows:

The program pointed to by the Set Runworkplace= line in Config.Sys, this file, could not be started. WinStartApp returned %1

  OK   Cancel

It doesn't matter if I click OK or Cancel. The box goes away and the system is stuck on a gray screen. To get back into the boot sequence, I have to turn the system off, wait a bit, and turn it back on. When it starts the boot sequence, the same thing happens.  At least it's consistent... :)

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: 2010.03.23, 04:31:05 »
Boot off the eCS disks or OS/2 boot disks, or hit ALT-F1 on the boot blob and select boot to commandline.

Then make sure the line reads:

Set Runworkplace=C:\OS2\PMSHELL.EXE

If it does, then it sounds like there is either a problem with the files on the disk, and/or there are other dependencies that are not loading.

I'd definitely back up the drive ASAP and THEN run something like Hitachi Drive Fitness Test on it using the FULL test.
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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: 2010.03.23, 15:15:03 »
How do I display the Config.sys file from the command line?
Also, how do I edit the Config.sys from the command line if necessary?

I'm almost sure the files on the hdd are screwed up. I tried going to the maintenance desktop, clicking on the Programs icon, and nothing happened.

I wish I could backup the drive. So far, nothing is working.

Can't even execute a program from the command line. Tried to start DBExpert. All I got was a blinking cursor and no disk activity.
« Last Edit: 2010.03.23, 15:39:01 by Dennis »

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« Reply #9 on: 2010.03.23, 16:57:32 »
Hello,

command you use is TEDIT

Press e.g. Esc to be able to edit the text.
F2 Save changes
F3 Quit

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: 2010.03.23, 17:29:47 »
Thanks

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« Reply #11 on: 2010.03.23, 22:08:35 »
Tried to get to the command line from the 'blob'. All it did was beep when I pressed F2 to go to the command line.

Will be gone for the n3xt 2 weeks working, but if anyone has any ideas, please keep posting.

Thanks

Dennis

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: 2010.03.23, 23:33:57 »
Tried to get to the command line from the 'blob'. All it did was beep when I pressed F2 to go to the command line.

Will be gone for the n3xt 2 weeks working, but if anyone has any ideas, please keep posting.

Thanks

Dennis

Alt-F1 at boot blob... F2 at the white on blue menu that comes up next.

Best,
Robert
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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: 2010.03.27, 16:01:35 »
Robert--that didn't work. System just beeped.
I think the file system (HPFS) is screwed up on my system drive (C:). Can I just relinstall eCs over the old installation or do I have to fdisk?
If I have to fdisk, can I just do that on my system drive and not my logical (D, E, F, G) drives? They're all on 1 hdd.

Thanks for the attempted help so far.

Dennis

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Re: HELP!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: 2010.03.27, 18:32:43 »
Suggest you obtain DFSee, create a bootable CD, and boot from it. Just by running
the program you will get a lot of info about you disks and file systems, which will be
helpful for identifying the problem.
DFsee is very advanced so be careful. Support the author by registering it and you will
also get very good help from him.