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PCMCIA OS/2 RJ45 & WIRELESS 802.11

Started by W3HYM, 2007.06.18, 01:48:43

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W3HYM

Which PCMCIA cards, i.e., brands, workd with OS/2 on Thinkpad?  I would like to have either (actually both) options for wireless and RJ45.   Problem with all that I see on EBAY, they support WINDOWS, including 3.11 and DOS.  I am not sure if enough for OS/2.


I appreciate advice on how to install and get running.  One is Thinkpad 770E.  Other is Thinkpad 701C. 


Also, is there a way to install from Diskettes and CD in a 701C?  I do not have floppy.  Not sure if I remore HD, is easily can install in another Thinkpad and load OS/2 v4 w updates, then replace HD in 701C.

BigWarpGuy

There is a list of wifi cards that suppose to work with OS/2 at http://www.os2warp.be .  8)

At the Warpstock 2006, there was a  discussion on portable ethernet/wifi devices that are powered by the USB port. There were some that worked with OS/2-eCS.   8)
http://www.google.com/products?q=portable+ethernet+wifi&btnG=Search+Products Froogle and 'portable ethernet wifi'.

kim

Quote from: Thomas Lee Mullins on 2007.06.19, 01:15:37
There is a list of wifi cards that suppose to work with OS/2 at http://www.os2warp.be .  8)

Well, it might be worth emphasize that the list hasn't been updated in a while and it can actually give false indication when trying to find similar cards. I would rather recomend to take directly look at the readme files found together with the Generic MAC Wrapper driver.

BigWarpGuy

http://en.ecomstation.ru/hardware.php Would this be a more up to date list for OS/2 and eCS users?  ???

davemci

 I found it impossible to download drivers for most of the Wifi cards listed as supported.   The drivers for the 2 Wifi cards supported for eCS 1.2 are the IBM High Rate and the Artem Onair Comcard.  Neither card is easily available or cheaply available.    However, after looking at this site: http://en.ecomstation.ru/hardware.php I discovered the D-Link MA401 works with the IBM High Rate Driver.  I found the D-Link card was easily and cheaply available on eBay.  I bought one and installed it using the IBM High Rate driver.  It works great!  Hope that helps.

Dave...

W3HYM

Dave,


I found the MA401 by Netgear, not under D-Link.  Is this the one to which you refer?


David

BigWarpGuy

Quote from: BigWarpGuy on 2007.06.19, 01:15:37
There is a list of wifi cards that suppose to work with OS/2 at http://www.os2warp.be .  8)

At the Warpstock 2006, there was a  discussion on portable ethernet/wifi devices that are powered by the USB port. There were some that worked with OS/2-eCS.   8)
http://www.google.com/products?q=portable+ethernet+wifi&btnG=Search+Products Froogle and 'portable ethernet wifi'.

I sent an e-mail to those at http://www.os2warp.be about joining so I can download files/drivers but have yet to hear from them.  :(

kim

Quote from: davemci on 2007.08.06, 22:28:22
Wifi cards supported for eCS 1.2 are the IBM High Rate and the Artem Onair Comcard.  Neither card is easily

The IBM High Rate Wireless LAN Mini-PCI Adapter is a recommended card if you want to get native IBM OS2 drivers; I've used the card together with a Dell Inspiron 8600 notebook. But, I'm not using that notebook that much anymore since it's not able to keep together (bad quality build). This old thread in the old forum has some more info.

I also bought some Netgear pcmcia cards that I've tried out, problem is to get the older cards with the correct chip since there are couple of different versions of the cards. I've tested a bunch of Orinoco cards and I kind of got tired of testing loads of cards. I had the luck to buy the IBM cards, even if costed by quite a lot for such a old card, but it worked without any problems at all.

As said I'm not using that IBM card anymore so if anyone really needs one badly, let me know.

Andrew Lee

If you want to use WPA, and not just WEP, then you have to use the GenMac Wrapper and one of the cards it supports.  The native OS/2 drivers, which are all for cards using Prism or Orinoco chips, or old Cisco cards, don't support WPA.  Also, I doubt that anyone makes any of those cards, or the chips used any more, though if you have to use 16-bit PCMCIA, as opposed to Cardbus, they're the only way to go.

I have a Microsoft MN-520 PCMCIA card that works in an old laptop with the GenPrism 2.0rc4 driver, which was apparently never released, but is easy to find.  This is a Prism based card that I got for $20 a few years ago when CompUSA was clearing them out.  The good thing about the (long discontinued) Microsoft WiFi hardware is that they only had one version of each model number, so you know exactly what chip is used in a card.

Andrew

kim

Agree with that WEP only should be used if you don't have any important that you want to protect; but the problem are worse; the WEP encryption is so easy to crack that it's not recommended to use it at all. Some of you might noticed following posting- Gone in 120 seconds: cracking Wi-Fi security. The main issue here now is that someone can crack the web encryption and get access to your access point and do what ever you want. Pointing to Germany they have a year old court verdict where the own of an AP is fully responsible for what ever goes on via the AP. So tools such as AirSnort has been around for a long time to gather WEP data to crack it (mentioning Germany again is that since couple of days now this kinds of tools are illegal now!). If WPA is what you got use that; but most AP can be upgraded to use WPA2 and this should be done if possible. Another suggestion when using WEP could also be that you set up the own segment using WEP; I've done that so that the WEP access for OS2 was isolated from the rest of the network so that I at least had the internet access. Also disable the broadcast of SSID is something to think about and some routers have more option of hiding them self. A great tool to look for wifi net is Network Stumbler.

Going back to the original question and already mentioned is that the GenMac drivers are starting to work really great and as well quite a few of the latest Intel cards are supported as well.

RobertM

Andrew said:
QuoteI have a Microsoft MN-520 PCMCIA card that works in an old laptop with the GenPrism 2.0rc4 driver, which was apparently never released, but is easy to find.

I should have that driver archived, though as Kim pointed out, a lot of work has been done to the GenMac drivers since (so look for an updated version - and if you cant find it, I can post the v2.0rc4 version someplace).

-Robert

PS: The Cisco 350 Series works wonderfully with OS/2 (with no real security as it doesnt even support WEP128 but is an viable option for an older machine with PCMICA 16 bit - such as my very ancient Thinkpad 600). It (the Thinkpad) does not support hibernating or suspending with the card in though... just "screen off". I would not suggest this card if you can find (and use) a CardBus alternative with GenMac as Kim and Andrew suggested. I WOULD suggest this card if you must use PCMCIA 16 and cant find a suitable higher end (802.11G with WPA that works with GenMac and comes in PCMCIA 16) solution.




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Blonde Guy

Quote from: W3HYM on 2007.06.18, 01:48:43
Which PCMCIA cards, i.e., brands, workd with OS/2 on Thinkpad?

One is Thinkpad 770E.  Other is Thinkpad 701C. 


I don't think GenMac is a good answer at all. You need an old card to work with an old Thinkpad. GenMac doesn't support PC Card at all, so you'd be stuck. (Does either Thinkpad support miniPCI? I don't think so.)

The Cisco 350 is great, has a good driver, and should work with the old computers you've got. There are plenty of them cheap on eBay right now.

I think wireless security is optional, but I'm in USA. Apparently you should not use this in Germany???
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BigWarpGuy

Quote from: BigWarpGuy on 2007.08.17, 20:27:04
Quote from: BigWarpGuy on 2007.06.19, 01:15:37
There is a list of wifi cards that suppose to work with OS/2 at http://www.os2warp.be .  8)

At the Warpstock 2006, there was a  discussion on portable ethernet/wifi devices that are powered by the USB port. There were some that worked with OS/2-eCS.   8)
http://www.google.com/products?q=portable+ethernet+wifi&btnG=Search+Products Froogle and 'portable ethernet wifi'.

I sent an e-mail to those at http://www.os2warp.be about joining so I can download files/drivers but have yet to hear from them.  :(

I did get a reply. I was told that they do not give out memberships to those wishing to download drivers. I was directed to look at the groups at Google. I will be searching there.