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Started by Saijin_Naib, 2007.12.27, 07:41:33

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Saijin_Naib

#45
Hmm, okay, that is interesting. I have to find a computer on my network that is always on then. I also have to get their IP addy, which I don't have. What if both addresses I specify are not online? Do I get no LAN results?

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Okay, so I used the DDNS conifg tool and its saying that my dynamic DNS server for my domian is:
ns-updates.rh.rit.edu

This seems like this would be a Nameserver for the LAN right? So, how do I resolve the IP address from this name address? Is this the value that should go into the Netbios Namserver field? I cant put it in in text because it is too many characters.

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I put in the IP address that I got from the DHCP configuration tool, maybe it's the same thing?

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Balls, did not work. I am going to see if I can call my school's IT department and see if they can give me the right stuff.

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My room mate gave me ns1.rit.edu and ns2.rit.edu from his Ubuntu networking setup. I put those values in and set myself to H-Node and rebooted. During the boot, a whole ton of .os2 files were said to be invalid and not loaded, and upon boot, the network requester had disappeared. Removing the values and rebooting again has restored things.

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This time I tried using 2 DNS values that XP had specified for itself on my roommates computer. No errors, but now I see nothing on the network browser.

melf

QuoteHmm, okay, that is interesting. I have to find a computer on my network that is always on then. I also have to get their IP addy, which I don't have. What if both addresses I specify are not online? Do I get no LAN results?

Thought about that to and I don't have an answer. Just fumbling.
/Mikael

Saijin_Naib

Hmm, the two DNS values from XP are actually the IP of ns1.rit.edu and ns2.rit.edu. I used the GNU toolkit from eCoSoftware to resolve back to IP from hostname and the values match up. Now, I just have to figure out why it still refuses to function correctly.

Saijin_Naib

#48
Okay, so Ive tried all of these values. These are from my school's IT service. Apparently, we no longer have NetBIOS name servers, and have not had them for a long time. Which makes we wonder how the hell I had it working that one time?

WINS Server: 129.21.3.95 (wins.rit.edu)
Name Server: 129.21.3.17 (ns1.rit.edu)
Name Server: 129.21.4.18 (ns2.rit.edu)
Name Server: 129.21.182.48 (ns.rit.edu)

as my NetBios Name Servers and set myself to H-Node, but nothing works now. I am alone in my own scary corner of the interwebs. I still have internet access courtesey of DHCP, so why the hell cant I browse the workgroups? I thought that DHCP/DDNS handled giving out the Name-server addresses so you get the list of workgroups and clients.

djcaetano

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.30, 22:07:06
Okay, so Ive tried all of these values. These are from my school's IT service. Apparently, we no longer have NetBIOS name servers, and have not had them for a long time. Which makes we wonder how the hell I had it working that one time?
WINS Server: 129.21.3.95 (wins.rit.edu)

  AFAIK, if truly up and running, WINS Server is able to act like as a NetBIOS Name Server (NBNS).
  I would use this IP as name server for netbios.

Saijin_Naib

#50
Alright, I will set myself to H-node again and put the WINS server value back in. Can you give me an overview of what my values SHOULD be in that page? I will post a screenshot shortly.

Edit: Screenshot Time

djcaetano

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 02:50:21
Alright, I will set myself to H-node again and put the WINS server value back in. Can you give me an overview of what my values SHOULD be in that page? I will post a screenshot shortly.
Edit: Screenshot Time

  Well, let me see... I will send you the values I use (I can talk with another WinXP computer in my home network, but it's a point-to-point network, no server):

Node Type: H-Node
Enable SLIP/PP Interface:
NetBIOS Name Server address: [your WINS server]
Backup NetBIOS Name Server address: [your WINS server]
NetBIOS Datagram Distributor address: [your WINS server]
Backup NetBIOS Datagram Distributor address: [your WINS server]
NETBIOS trace level: 0
Maximum Sessions: 225
Maximum Commands: 219
Maximum names: 44
GDT selectors: 15
Full buffer datagrams: NO
Query timeout: 500
NETBIOS retries: 2
Number of names in remote name directory: 1000
Minutes between remote name directory purgues: 0
Preload remote name directory: YES
Maximum number of name-ip address pairs in names file: 100
UDP-frame descriptors: 20
TCP-frame descriptors: 100
Enter NetBIOS Domain Scope String: [your TCP/IP domain name... p.e: aol.com]
Enablement of DNS lookup of RFC-unencoded name: 2
Enter Local NetBIOS Name Scope String: [your NetBIOS/P2P domain name]
Seconds to pause between TCP/IP interface checks: 300

  The most important differences are the domain names that must be added, and the Enablement of DNS lookup equal to 2 (this instructs the protocol to try to resolve names by NetBIOS *and* by TCP/IP DNS). The Preload remote name directory to YES and Maximum number of name-ip address pairs in names file are for using with /IBMCOM/RFCNAMES.LST, something that is very usefull if some machines have always the same IPs... this avoid broadcasting to determine machines and thus reduces the NetBIOS response time.
   There is also /IBMCOM/RFCBCST.LST, where you can define the IPs you want to be broadcasted, limiting the broadcast scope and making things faster.

  In my case, I have a wireless router which acts like a firewall server. My RFCNAMES.LST has only one entry, which has my router IP and its name. This router assigns dynamic IPs for machines in my local network, but this IPs re limited from 192.168.1.100 to 192.168.1.115, whose are listed in /IBMCOM/RFCBCST.LST.

  I don't know if this will solve your problems. It seems to me that some kind of black magic is necessary to make LAN Requester and File and Print Client to talk to Windows machines and domains. I had tried in different configurations with mixed results. In some places I could see everything. In others only could add printers and folders "forcing" them (asking to WPS to create icons). And has been a long time since a Windows could access my computer (the last one was running Win98). I can almost always access WinXP, but WinXP never can do anything with OS/2 shared folders. They are displayed, but when one tries to access it, a password is asked and I never was able to discover it.
  Also, I discovered that WinXP refuses to work with OS/2 Warp Server. Win98 can talk to OS/2 Warp Server (but it needs a lot of tampering with lmhosts file on Win98), but not any Windows NT since Win2k (including XP and, AFAIK, Vista).

  Ah, remember to enable NetBIOS protocol in your WinXP machines (I don't know why, this seems to make things easier) and also to change every appearance of "lmannounce" in your Windows Registry from 0 to 1.

Saijin_Naib

#52
Thanks for all the info and help! I will try these shortly, but just a quick comment from my end. Its rather strange, my roomate can access my eCS shares perfectly, without issue, from his Vista and XP boxes, with no reg changes, and no netbios enabled! In fact, every other person on the workgroup I asked could see me and access me, and they did not do any tinkering to get it to work. Weird stuff.

Edit:
Two questions:
Enter NetBIOS Name Scope String: (TCP/IP domain name? Where would I find this?)
Enter Local NetBIOS Name Scope String: (Netbios/p2p domain name? What is this?)

Also, does it matter that my IBM OS/2 NetBIOS Over TCP/IP and IBM OS/2 TCP/IP are both set to number 0?
thanks!

djcaetano

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 03:53:02
Thanks for all the info and help! I will try these shortly, but just a quick comment from my end. Its rather strange, my roomate can access my eCS shares perfectly, without issue, from his Vista and XP boxes, with no reg changes, and no netbios enabled! In fact, every other person on the workgroup I asked could see me and access me, and they did not do any tinkering to get it to work. Weird stuff.

  Very weird.

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 03:53:02
Two questions:
Enter NetBIOS Name Scope String: (TCP/IP domain name? Where would I find this?)

  If your computer is inserted into a TCP/IP network with domain names, then your
computer should have a TCP/IP domain name. For example, my computer is
connect through my provider which is named Virtua. My computer hostname
is SAURON. The TCP/IP domain is virtua.com.br and therefore my computer
can be accessed inside this network using the address sauron.virtua.com.br.
In Windows 98 there was a tab called DNS Configuration on "TCP/IP" properties
with one field called "HOST" (where SAURON would be show, in my computer)
and another field called "DOMAIN" (where virtua.com.br would be shown, in
my computer)

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 03:53:02
Enter Local NetBIOS Name Scope String: (Netbios/p2p domain name? What is this?)

  Usually it is the name of your Workgroup or something like that on Windows.

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 03:53:02
Also, does it matter that my IBM OS/2 NetBIOS Over TCP/IP and IBM OS/2 TCP/IP are both set to number 0?
thanks!

  I had bad experiences on that. Usually you should have NetBIOS over TCP/IP as 0 and NetBIOS as 1. Notice, however, that MPTS Configuration do not update things correctly when changing protocol order. Make a backup of your /IBMCOM/PROTOCOL.INI file befora changing things around. After placing NetBIOS over TCP/IP as 0 and NetBIOS as 1, the following section shoud be present on your PROTOCOL.INI:

[NETBIOS]
   DriverName = netbios$
   ADAPTER1 = tcpbeui$,0
   ADAPTER2 = netbeui$,1

  Notice, however, that MPTS *never* updates the LAN Requester/FPClient. So, look at the file /IBMLAN/IBMLAN.INI and verify that the following is defined:

[networks]
  net1 = TCPBEUI$,0,LM10,34,100,14
  net2 = NETBEUI$,1,LM10,34,100,14

  The important numbers are that following TCPBEUI$ (0, in this case) and NETBEUI$ (1, in this case). They should match the values of PROTOCOL.INI. Also, verify if the following is defined in this IBMLAN.INI:

  wrknets = net1,net2
  Computername = [your computer name]
  Domain = [netbios domain / workgroup]

And...

  srvnets = net1,net2
  SRVCOMMENT = [your computer name]

And also verify if the tag:

  srvhidden = no

  Is set to NO. The default is YES.


Saijin_Naib

Okay, I set Netbios Name Scope string as rh.rit.edu and Local Netbios Name Scope String as Workgroup. ALl other values are set as described, TCP/IP is bound to 0, as is Netbios over TCP/IP. Which should be 1, which should be 0?

djcaetano

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.01.31, 06:01:27
Okay, I set Netbios Name Scope string as rh.rit.edu and Local Netbios Name Scope String as Workgroup. ALl other values are set as described, TCP/IP is bound to 0, as is Netbios over TCP/IP. Which should be 1, which should be 0?

  I always place NetBIOS over TCP as 0, and then assign it to net1 on IBMLAN.INI, so NetBIOS over TCP/IP is always 'tried" before plain NetBIOS.

Saijin_Naib

Thanks again for the help, but I guess I still have something wrong because its still not working. Do I need Netbios as well as Netbios over TCP/IP and TCP/IP?

Here are my relevant settings windows thus far:

Saijin_Naib

I put the value WORKGROUP for the Local NetBIOS Name Scope String and rebooted, now I am completely alone on my corner of the network. I cant even see the OSX machines that I could before.

Net View Results:

RobertM

Saijin,

I dont know if this will help, but I have seen default XP installs that did not "default" to WORKGROUP for a workgroup name. Most recently, I have seen MSHOME (Gateway system) after a format, OEM reinstall.

Go to "Control Panel -> System" and find the appropriate section for computer name, and see what the workgroup name is there and make sure it matches.

If that's not it, then I am not sure...

HTH,
-Rob


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Saijin_Naib

Hey Robert, yeah my XP machine is registered to WORKGROUP because thats what I set it to during the install. I made sure that I registered eCS to the same WORKGROUP when I install it as well. My roomate is registered to WORKGROUP under XP, and MSHOME under Ubuntu, and he can see me easily either way. Its just I cant see going out. I must not be getting the list of names, but clearly I am broadcasting out to everyone else. Networking, like many other things, is completely over my head -_-