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My Smart Fortwo Pure

Started by BigWarpGuy, 2008.03.28, 19:31:41

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Robert Deed

Actually OS/2 has decent support for touchscreens.. it is a little .. interesting to get working but works with most modern screens.. (i've even gotten it to work on USB models).

Voicetype would be useless because of it's outdated learning system and since Voicetype is not open source there is 0 chance of improvements being made.

On the other hand atleast it wouldn't be as bad as sync.. I tried out a "demonstration" using my real phone and it corrupted all my contacts..  Not to mention its voice recognition competes with voicetype for sheer uselessness.

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.06.17, 00:06:22
Right, but IBM Voice Type has proven to be difficult to get functioning in eCS 1.x and 2.x, and not only that, a head unit can NOT be voice only, there needs to be some sort of tactile control such as touch screen (eCS needs) or buttons (eCS can handle). Not to mention any of the other points I mentioned above such as BT and IOprocs and friendliness with removable mass storage that was not specifically readied for eCS such as map data and expansions on CF/SD as well as the vast majority of Mp3 players and the like that may get hooked up to it. I am, unfortunately, grounded in the here and now, and eCS, as stands, would not make a good in-car platform IMO. Argue that it may one day all you want, it means nothing what MAY happen.

Saijin_Naib

Whats wrong with your phone that that happened? I've never had any corruption of my internal databases with my Samsung when pairing over BT with anything, even for filesharing and contact sharing. You should look into what caused the issue.

Good to hear eCS works with touch-screens, I was under the impression that it would not work with any screen it did not have an explicit driver for. How does one get it to accept other ones?

Is there a GNU voice command app that is any good and that can be ported with minimal fuss?

The IOPROCS and BT/removable storage remain a big issue in making eCS a viable option for an in-car solution.

saborion2

Hey "BigWarpGuy",

There goes the competition!!!  ;D

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Import this Tata car

Recently, the Tata Group of India showcased a car that is US$2500 brand new. While there has been great interest in this vehicle, I would advise the Government to purchase about 50,000 for the Guyana market. These vehicles can be sold off at a little profit.

I believe that the main benefit would be in the insurance industry, the vehicle maintenance industry and in the private car hire industry.
High paying jobs would be created in Guyana using local capital and local human resources.


http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=15000



Just knew that sooner or rather than later the "Smart ForTwo" types  ;D would find their way South of The Border.

Next stop: On to the "South Dakota Racing Circuit". Have you got your "Passport" at the ready!  ;D ;) ;D

Best regards,

SAB

saborion2

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.06.20, 17:41:19
Hey "BigWarpGuy",

There goes the competition!!!  ;D

Re:

Quote

Import this Tata car

Recently, the Tata Group of India showcased a car that is US$2500 brand new. While there has been great interest in this vehicle, I would advise the Government to purchase about 50,000 for the Guyana market. These vehicles can be sold off at a little profit.

I believe that the main benefit would be in the insurance industry, the vehicle maintenance industry and in the private car hire industry.
High paying jobs would be created in Guyana using local capital and local human resources.


http://www.stabroeknews.com/?p=15000



Just knew that sooner or rather than later the "Smart ForTwo" types  ;D would find their way South of The Border.

Next stop: On to the "South Dakota Racing Circuit". Have you got your "Passport" at the ready!  ;D ;) ;D

Best regards,

SAB


Hi All,

The way things are going with respect to the price per gallon of gas at pumps in the United States of America now projected for 2010 to be $7.00 plus, it is anyone guess what it will be 10 to 20 years from now. The question that remains: Will the "Smart ForTwo" do the trick?  ???

Regards.

SAB

BigWarpGuy

By then there will probably be more hybrid vehicles and electric vehicles and fuel cell vehicles. There are developing a micro-hybrid and electric versions of the Fortwo. The Smart vehicle might be part of the solution.  8)

saborion2

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Quote from: BigWarpGuy on 2008.06.30, 03:18:58
By then there will probably be more hybrid vehicles and electric vehicles and fuel cell vehicles. There are developing a micro-hybrid and electric versions of the Fortwo. The Smart vehicle might be part of the solution.  8)

Hey BigWarpGuy,

That's a great response following a most interesting subject heading.  ;D It makes one wonder (from both technical and economics standpoints...) just what is happening with the "eComStation" folks so that there can be parallel (micro) development to match those of the
Quotemicro-hybrid and electric versions of the Fortwo

Kindest regards,

SAB

BigWarpGuy

It would be great to see a flex fuel system for the Fortwo like they have in the Obvio 828 and 012.
http://www.obviousa.com   ;D GMC is also has some flex fuel vehicles.  8)

Robert Deed

How about this.. diesel electric hybrid..  This one may actually see production (with much smaller lighter batteries then this test mule)

http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/article_2347.shtml

Saijin_Naib

There is some talk of the same on the Smart ForTwo platform, seeing milage above 99MPG on the EPA 2008 rating scale. I can't wait :)

BigWarpGuy

I hope it does not come out too soon. I am still paying for the current one.  ;D

saborion2

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Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.07.01, 02:59:06
There is some talk of the same on the Smart ForTwo platform, seeing milage above 99MPG on the EPA 2008 rating scale. I can't wait :)

Also,

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I hope it does not come out too soon. I am still paying for the current one.  ;D


From the above... one can only logically conclude that it all borders on the "economic realities" of the times.  8)

And, Hey "BigWarpGuy"! Tonight's news goes on record with "gas prices" at the pumps at $4.10 per gallon (National Average); and, more in some other places around the country. Do these prices not "shatter" your own earlier projections?

Regards,

SAB

Robert Deed

I believe your question was in the long run, and I don't believe (and many "experts" also do not believe) that the prices are sustainable.  As demand for a product drops, the price will eventually go down.  If the feds put some sort of cap on commodity trading then the price will also come down.  You have to also consider in the US most fuel is cut with 10% ethanol, the price of ethanol in the US has risen quite sharply in the past year, ironically due to the higher cost in crude..  Since most farm machinery runs off diesel .  The market in the US will not allow prices to endlessly rise without something happening.  I believe the most likely would be alternative fuels which can be used unmodified in unleaded fueled vehicles.  This doesn't get much news coverage because there are no great "eco" or "green" or other such nonsense one can attach to it.  Simply lower priced fuel for any car which runs on fuel. 

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.07.01, 04:36:06
Re:

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.07.01, 02:59:06
There is some talk of the same on the Smart ForTwo platform, seeing milage above 99MPG on the EPA 2008 rating scale. I can't wait :)

Also,

Quote

I hope it does not come out too soon. I am still paying for the current one.  ;D


From the above... one can only logically conclude that it all borders on the "economic realities" of the times.  8)

And, Hey "BigWarpGuy"! Tonight's news goes on record with "gas prices" at the pumps at $4.10 per gallon (National Average); and, more in some other places around the country. Do these prices not "shatter" your own earlier projections?

Regards,

SAB


Robert Deed

The EPA has an annoying habit of doing tests on plug in hybrids with fully charged batteries and the test is usually completed on electric alone.  Which does not demonstrate the true fuel economy of a car. 

I am kinda opposed to the plug in hybrid anyway, as the government is making moves to ban incandescent bulbs for energy savings however we're all going to come home and plug our cars in?  Doesn't make so much sense.  Our electric is still supplied primary by carbons, whether it is petroleum or coal.  Yes, we can offset this by use of solar panels, the wind (and please don't get me started on how bad hydro power is).  But simply put the systems need to be in place before the cars make it to the market, on top of that the systems need to be affordable enough and flexible enough to be used in most homes.  Which includes the need for the electric companies to get on top of purchasing power from homeowners.. something which is quite popular out in California but not seen widespread across the country.  During the day these solar panels are just going to be sitting on the roof of our homes doing nothing, and at night when we come home they won't be of much use.  The use of more batteries to offset this is even less environmentally sound.  The only thing which makes sense is to do a trade with the electric companies.. they use your power during the day, and you get it back at night when you need it..

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.07.01, 02:59:06
There is some talk of the same on the Smart ForTwo platform, seeing milage above 99MPG on the EPA 2008 rating scale. I can't wait :)

Saijin_Naib

... Robert, the EPA 2008 rating has changed from the previous statute (which you describe), the reason why the Prius is only rated for roughly 35mpg combined. Its no longer done on a rolling dyno with nearly 0 resistance.

Robert Deed

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.07.01, 21:57:33
... Robert, the EPA 2008 rating has changed from the previous statute (which you describe), the reason why the Prius is only rated for roughly 35mpg combined. Its no longer done on a rolling dyno with nearly 0 resistance.

Yes. For standard hybrid (ie:not plugins)  the new EPA ratings will give a more true to life fuel economy. It doesn't however change the fact the plug in hybrids would be tested under a full charge (100% electric) condition. This is moot since there are no plug in hybrids right now however smart has them in the works along with GM, Honda and toyota.