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Weird stuff happening...

Started by Rrm, 2008.04.16, 13:58:56

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saborion2

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I also left out the HP screen i get when i boot, it comes right before the OS/2 screen
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How about tracing back to the "source" from where you obtained your machine? The HP Logo suggests that you could have gotten a "machine" that someone at at HP or an HP Distribution was "experimenting/having some fun with. 8) 8) 8) For me, it would have been nice if booting sequence was in the reverse; re: from XP to OS/2.

BTW, This reminds me that I have got to make a check to see if an Hard Drive I had replaced sometime ago is still around.  ;D ;D ;D
 

warpcafe

Hi all,

well... I would really like to see the ENTIRE boot process... but from what I see, it seems the (animated) XP logo was replaced by a "different boot logo" and that's it. So to recap:
- you power on the machine and get the POST screen from HP
- then right after, the sequence shown in the video starts?

Okay:
Where's the XP "nightrider" scrolling progress bar? Nothing.
Instead, after "OS/2" (which is certainly not the real one) is gone the XP login come up almost instantly.
(Which I never saw is the case in real life ;) )Thus:
The XP boot progress logo is replaced by an alternate one (in this case OS/2).

Cheers,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

kim

Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 18:09:38
here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YkGx2P3MQg

Well, from looking at the video it's a splash screen hoax since if you all look really carefully the typical white cursor square in the upper left corner is missing. So I would suggest to check the standard Windows splash screen bitmap file if this either has been replaced with a new one or if the system points to a new hoaxed one.

Easiest way to check this and replace it with the original (if the file still exist) or another nicer boot image, download BootSkin and use this tool to make the changes.

kim

I just downloaded BootSkin, was a while ago I used it, but there is actually a OS2 Warp splash screen to replace the existing Windows. So I would guess that someone installed BootSkin on your system and replaced the boot image. Check if you have a directory C:\Program Files\Stardock on your system; if yes you'll be able to see if BootSkin is installed or not.

RobertM

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.04.17, 18:35:05
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I also left out the HP screen i get when i boot, it comes right before the OS/2 screen
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How about tracing back to the "source" from where you obtained your machine? The HP Logo suggests that you could have gotten a "machine" that someone at at HP or an HP Distribution was "experimenting/having some fun with....

To Saborion2:
Nah, the newer HP's and numerous older ones default to displaying the HP logo (with or without the pre-boot menu options for BIOS, Recovery). That's normal on that model - and can be disabled in the BIOS (as can various pre-boot options, such as "System Recovery" which HP seems to randomly enable/disable on various models, even though hitting the key works whether or not the option is shown on screen).




To Rrm:
From looking at the video though, I would say that someone (or something - like a virus) has simply replaced the Windows boot logo (as others here have also suggested - and I fully concur with).

As Kim indicated, if it were OS/2 you would see a white block followed by OS/2 on the top right directly up till when the bootlogo came on the screen (which you dont).

In addition, when the bootlogo clears, you would either see some sort of trap information (if even briefly) or driver load information before or when an OS/2 boot failed.




Thus, it is safe to say, you are not booting to OS/2, and you are simply seeing the OS/2 logo because someone replaced the Windows boot screen with it.

As for the system taking longer to boot, that may or may not be a related issue - inotherwords:

  • If the boot logo was replaced by a virus, it may be doing (or loading) other things during bootup, thus slowing down your boot
  • The bootup process may not be slower - but may only seem so, because you dont have the little moving bar widget on the boot screen.

If you dont have a virus, spyware or trojan, you can either

  • Live with the boot logo
  • Download (and scan for virus/spyware before you use it) a tool to switch the bootlogo back to the normal Windows one (or to a Vista one or various others available online).

But at this point, other than the image itself, it would seem you do not have any components of OS/2 on the system (and technically, not even the image is from OS/2, as I suspect Windows does not understand OS/2 bootlogo format - meaning someone took an OS/2 bootlogo and converted it to the format that Windows uses for it's bootlogos).

Robert


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Rrm

Well, i downloaded and installed bootskin, and when i started it, it already pointed to the os/2 warp image... I clicked the standard one, and it just shows the normal xp boot now :)

RobertM

Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.17, 23:37:33
Well, i downloaded and installed bootskin, and when i started it, it already pointed to the os/2 warp image... I clicked the standard one, and it just shows the normal xp boot now :)

Bingo!

Glad we all could be of help!

I'd still DEEP scan your machine for a virus or spyware or trojan... because someone - or something - changed your bootlogo (unless you happen to recall changing it in the past)... and you may wish to scan your external drive as well, just in case that was the source of the infection.

Robert


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Rrm

Thanks, i sure will do. Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it :).
Incase anyone here wants to have a chat, feel free to contact me by mail or msn; philip_debruyne@hotmail.com :)

saborion2

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Thanks, i sure will do. Thanks for the help guys, i really appreciate it Smiley.
Incase anyone here wants to have a chat, feel free to contact me by mail or msn;

Hey "Rrm", Given that you have had that encounter with that OS/2 Splash Screen... (also, taking into consideration that at times certain "mysterious" things happen in a person's life for a specific purpose.  ;D ) How about you becoming an OS/2 Evangelist by joining the flock as in this way you are always in touch with the OS/2 Community!   ;) 

Rrm

lol sab you really make it look liek this is some kind of sect :P

saborion2

Quote from: Rrm on 2008.04.18, 20:36:44
lol sab you really make it look liek this is some kind of sect :P

No, not really "Rrm"; I was actually reading an online article about how some of all of this IT business we all currently in evolved:

QuoteWhen Gates and Allen invented the idea of selling software, they ran into criticism from both hackers and sober-sided businesspeople. Hackers understood that software was just information, and objected to the idea of selling it. These objections were partly moral. The hackers were coming out of the scientific and academic world where it is imperative to make the results of one's work freely available to the public. They were also partly practical; how can you sell something that can be easily copied? Businesspeople, who are polar opposites of hackers in so many ways, had objections of their own. Accustomed to selling toasters and insurance policies, they naturally had a difficult time understanding how a long collection of ones and zeroes could constitute a salable product.

Obviously Microsoft prevailed over these objections, and so did Apple. But the objections still exist. The most hackerish of all the hackers, the Ur-hacker as it were, was and is Richard Stallman, who became so annoyed with the evil practice of selling software that, in 1984 (the same year that the Macintosh went on sale) he went off and founded something called the Free Software Foundation, which commenced work on something called GNU. Gnu is an acronym for Gnu's Not Unix, but this is a joke in more ways than one, because GNU most certainly IS Unix,. Because of trademark concerns ("Unix" is trademarked by AT&T) they simply could not claim that it was Unix, and so, just to be extra safe, they claimed that it wasn't. Notwithstanding the incomparable talent and drive possessed by Mr. Stallman and other GNU adherents, their project to build a free Unix to compete against Microsoft and Apple's OSes was a little bit like trying to dig a subway system with a teaspoon. Until, that is, the advent of Linux, which I will get to later.

But the basic idea of re-creating an operating system from scratch was perfectly sound and completely doable. It has been done many times. It is inherent in the very nature of operating systems.

Operating systems are not strictly necessary. There is no reason why a sufficiently dedicated coder could not start from nothing with every project and write fresh code to handle such basic, low-level operations as controlling the read/write heads on the disk drives and lighting up pixels on the screen. The very first computers had to be programmed in this way. But since nearly every program needs to carry out those same basic operations, this approach would lead to vast duplication of effort....

http://www.spack.org/wiki/InTheBeginningWasTheCommandLine#head-d4d5dad233cad266c7022ada924f21ef959c8127


Remembering also that it was stated by none other than Bill Gates as saying that:
Quotethe OS/2 Operating System was a better Operating System than Windows

and, I am just curious to know why a "smart dude" like you appear to be would want to have anything to do with Windows and not something like OS/2.  ::) ::) ::)

Saijin_Naib

That was said many years ago, and certainly was true in the Win 3.x era, but it really isnt very true at all now. Unless you mean that OS/2 has the power to be antiquated, in which case, yes, OS/2 is still better at being antiquated than Windows.

saborion2

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.18, 23:05:56
That was said many years ago, and certainly was true in the Win 3.x era, but it really isnt very true at all now. Unless you mean that OS/2 has the power to be antiquated, in which case, yes, OS/2 is still better at being antiquated than Windows.

Actually, I could not disagree with you more; and, that is not if the OS/2 World Foundation has its way; re: the most recent Petition Letter to IBM.  ::)  ???

BTW, take a look at this site and tell me how far away are we from the CASSINI Distribution?  8)

QuoteUpdate your OS/2 installation CD-ROM with fixpaks!

http://xenia.sote.hu/~kadzsol/rexx/sajat/updcd.htm


The next frontier for OS/2 - eComStation Users (Rolls Royce Owners  ;D ) - Automatic Updates as fast as they can come! 8)



Saijin_Naib

Sab, I have hopes for OS/2 and IBM loosening its death-grip on OS/2, but I honestly can't say I believe it is going to happen. I don't want to be a spoil-sport or a killjoy, but things just aren't looking good in that way.

saborion2

Quote from: Saijin_Naib on 2008.04.19, 03:50:12
Sab, I have hopes for OS/2 and IBM loosening its death-grip on OS/2, but I honestly can't say I believe it is going to happen. I don't want to be a spoil-sport or a killjoy, but things just aren't looking good in that way.

Hi Saijin_Naib, Your sentiments are well understood; but, some of us are on certain missions and there is something that you have got to appreciate; and, that is: what if IBM's OS/2 programmers were not really the best-of-breed and also understood that they were not going to be the ultimate users of the Operating System and Applications that they were working on... one other thing - remember that "necessity is the mother of all inventions" (at least, so I here they say). That DOS, OS/2, Windows, Windows 95, NT, eComStation et cetera et cetera..... morphed out of something else it is incomprehensible that 20 or so years from now it should/will be still called OS/2. You have got to remember "Saijin_Naib" that "companies" may go out of business but "ideas" live on; and, it is in this context/light that the perpetual development of OS/2 idea is seen. Let me ask you this - how can you be a farmer who do not sow the seeds for the food crops and expect to see food on the family table in addition to be able to help meet the import needs of countries around the world. Now, substitute "seeds for food crops" for "OS/2 based Information Technologies (IT)" and that is the degree of confidence in this region of the world that OS/2 will Live Long and it's users will Prosper! Now, where does IBM fit into the picture if the world is to be fed.

Finally, tell me what is the profession of your best friend (who has to be convinced) at the time of a financial and economic crisis! ???  ::) ;D