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Voice Type

Started by klipp, 2008.04.26, 20:15:26

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klipp

Is there a newer version of VoiceType available, other than whats on the Warp4 cd? Supposedly VoiceType is included with eCs, but I can't seem to find it.

Thanks   klipp
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Saijin_Naib

Its included in the 1.2r CD2, but I have not been able to get it to work at all.

klipp

Does anybody have this application working? It installs fine on eCs 1.2r & 2.0 rc4 but "craps out" trying to establish a session with the Speech Recognizer.  This software used to work well with Warp4.

thanks   klipp
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Saijin_Naib

AFAIK, its broken under eCS for whatever reason. I tried many, many times to get it working, but eventually just gave it up. I think this is a known issue with eCS.

The Blue Warper

It was one of my favorite app under Warp4. Once correctly trained, I was able to dictate with very few errors. But under eCS 1.x it didn't run, so I had to gave it up too. AFAIK, VoiceType doesn't work with the uniaud drivers (and possibly with sblive too, but I'm not 100% sure right now), and as uniaud is often the only driver one can install on recent hardware, that should be the reason why an increasing number of systems can't run this app anymore. Hopefully I'll find the docs where I read about this issue, so as to post some reference here, but I cannot guarantee.
Regards

klipp

Hey Blue Warper, Thanks for you're response. Do you possibly remember what sound card you were using back then? I've been trying to remember what I used  -- but to no avail! I just tried a system with SBLive installed and it failed the same way.  Hope you can find some documentation!

klipp
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sXwamp

If you have an older motherboard with ISA slots, then get a Soundblaster AWE 32. I used one for 10 years unitl it died on me.  Plus you get sound back in your DOS sessions, and I never had problems with it.  Pick one up on eBay for $10 or less.

Greggory Shaw

Quote from: klipp on 2008.04.28, 08:08:49
Hey Blue Warper, Thanks for you're response. Do you possibly remember what sound card you were using back then? I've been trying to remember what I used  -- but to no avail! I just tried a system with SBLive installed and it failed the same way.  Hope you can find some documentation!

klipp

klipp

Thanks for the info Greggory, I do have a machine with ISA slots. Did you by any chance use it with any version of eCs?

klipp
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The Blue Warper

Hi klipp!

I successfully used VoiceType on an IBM Aptiva equipped with an IBM MWave audio card (it was that time when IBM made PCs and wrote OS/2 drivers too...).  I seem to remember that on VoiceType manual the sample screenshots showed two cards on the settings notebook: IBM MWave and SoundBlaster 16.  So these ones should surely work.  But, generally speaking, I think that most audio cards worked correctly back in the Warp 4 years (if they came with OS/2 drivers...).  (And if you also need sound in your DOS sessions, then you may want to follow Greggory's suggestion).
I have a SBLive 5.1 Player on another PC, but I wasn't able to run VoiceType on it.  I use uniaud 1.1.4 RC1, but before I 'switched' to uniaud my driver was sblive08x.  I do remember I tried VoiceType with sblive08x driver, but can't remember if it did or did not work with this driver, sorry.
As for the docs, I really have no clue where to find them, but I DID read somewhere something related to an issue about VoiceType and uniaud drivers.  I'll do some more search...

klipp

Well, I just tried a machine that had ISA slots with a SoundBlaster 16 installed!  NoGo!  But the difference is I'm using eCs 2.0 rc4 rather than warp 4 or 4.5!  I guess now the next step is to figure out if any combination will work with eCs. It seems strange they would include this software in the eCs CD #2 if it would not work with the eCs operating system.
    Thanks again for the help. I need this to work for a client with a handicapped little girl. And I have problems saying it won't work on eCs only Warp4. But installing Warp 4.5 and checking it out may be my only recourse.
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The Blue Warper

OK, I found this discussion on the ('old') OS2world forum:
http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/ultraboard/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=59&TID=794&SID=

Maybe it's not a driver issue, but something apparently changed in eCS.  You could try installing on drive C: (provided you haven't done so yet), as suggested by RobertM in that discussion.  But another user ('boldos') reported a different experience (VoiceType won't work on eCS2.0x, with 1.2R being the last version where it would work).  I had VoiceType working on Warp4_FP15+IBM MWave+IBM drivers, and not working on eCS 1.x + SB Live 5.1 Player + uniaud (and possibly sblive08x too, though I cannot confirm this).  Also, the VoiceType shipped with eCS 1.0 came with some newer files than the original Warp4's VoiceType (IIRC, they were fixes related to LVM).  Maybe you're just missing them?

RobertM

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I have had success with VoiceType using every adapter I have tried.

The problems are as follows:

  • After installing VoiceType, you must (find and) install the updates/fixes for it
  • You may have issues if you have installed the Programming Toolkit for OS/2 as it changes some DLLs that VoiceType uses (IIRC)

My Thinkpad laptop is using a Crystal Semiconductors BusinessAudio card and runs VoiceType flawlessly. I have also successfully (using above method) used VoiceType on Ensoniq and SB16 PNP and non-PNP cards (also using their native, non-UniAudio drivers).




I am wondering if your issue may be the sound card driver itself... are you using UniAudio or the card's OS/2 driver? I think one major change in later versions of eCS is that more sound cards are being supported via UniAudio instead of card-specific drivers...

Has anyone had success using VoiceType using the latest UniAudio?




As for running it in systems with two sound card - that I have never tried, but would love to when I get a chance.

Robert



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RobertM

Hey all,

As a side note, in the old Forums, I referenced an installation guide I had found that was extremely helpful (but did not post the link).

I've since found the link, which outlines each step needed to successfully install VoiceType on eCS and Warp 4.5:

http://www.os2usr.de/vt45.html

(and dont forget to Install VoiceType on Drive C).


As a side note, as far as I can recall, I have yet to install VoiceType on any eCS system (all have been Warp Server for eBusiness v4.52) - and if I am not correctly recalling that, then the last eCS version I tried this on was v1.1

Robert


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Saijin_Naib

Thank you robert! I cant wait to try this out now :) I assumed the VT on the CD was the latest VT with all the fixes, that only makes sense to me, but I assumed wrong.

klipp

Well, Using a new install of eCs-rc4 on the boot drive C: of a box with a SBLive soundcard installed and the fixpack installed (BTW the version of Voice Type on the eCs 1.2 CD2 does have the updated files!) it still fails the same way as I described above.
Looks like Voice Type is not usable with eCs.
I wish someone would prove me wrong!

klipp
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