Author Topic: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?  (Read 1338 times)

Julien Pierre

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« on: January 09, 2019, 09:51:51 am »
I have the following :
- a Brother MFC-L8850CDW all-in-one laser printer (2014 model)
- a Canon Pixma Pro-100 inkjet photo printer (2012 model)
- an Epson Workforce 7110 inkjet photo printer (2014 model)
All of them are networked with Ethernet.

I didn't see any of them listed with ArcaOS CUPS drivers.
Is there any chance of getting one or more to work, and if so, with which driver ?

Eugene Gorbunoff

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 3
  • -Receive: 5
  • Posts: 117
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 12:11:07 pm »
Brother MFC-L8850CDW spec => https://support.brother.com/g/b/spec.aspx?c=us_ot&lang=en&prod=mfcl8850cdw_us_eu_as
seems that it supports PostScript and PCL.
OS/2 supports all PostScript printers.

mauro

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 160
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 12:31:16 pm »
Hi Julien, since all the 3 models seem to support the PS Post Script mode, you should be able to find a compatible printer driver model among the ones already included in the OS2 selectable printers list. Just seek in the file/printer title the "PS" or "Post Script" definition.  In my case, I have a Samsung Xpression C460 wireless printer (color laserjet) which I could configure to print by selecting a HP Color laserjet 8500 series driver with Post Script capability mentioned in the driver title.
« Last Edit: January 09, 2019, 12:52:25 pm by mauro »

ivan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 33
  • Posts: 968
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2019, 02:25:58 pm »
Hi Julien,

I have a couple of Brother laser printers (DCP-9020cdw and HL-3170cdw) that work using the PSPRINT driver (on ArcaOS) and the PSCRIPT driver (on OS/2) via the SLPR port driver.  The only thing necessary to get them working was to import the PPD from the LINUX drivers (after cleaning them) using the instructions included with Alex Taylor's PSPRINT-30_905 package.

I can, and do, use the scanner of the DCP-9020cdw via Peter Moylan's FTP Server.

mauro

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 0
  • -Receive: 2
  • Posts: 160
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2019, 05:42:50 pm »

I can, and do, use the scanner of the DCP-9020cdw via Peter Moylan's FTP Server.

Hi Ivan, I'd like to understand more about this, since my Samsung Xpression C460 acts also as scanner but no idea on how I could scan.
Thank you

ivan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 33
  • Posts: 968
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2019, 06:30:55 pm »
It all depends on the settings for the printer.  If the printer has the ability to scan to FTP over the network it is easy.

1) setup Peter's FTP Server and enable either a directory or a disk (I have disk F: set to rw) set the login name and give it a password.
2) open the printer settings, go to the scanner settings page and give it the IP address of the server, the login and a directory for the scans and the ftp password.  Then setup several scan profiles for example, colour scan, document scan, scan to pdf, etc (depends on how the firmware of your printer is setup.
3) do a test scan. If it works OK, if it doesn't you most probably have a problem with the ftp server setup (I have to admit I had a problem adding another drive to the settings because I was years since I first setup the server).  There is also the possibility you might get one of the scanner settings out of range (go over the manual carefully and don't try and ask it to do something lot listed).

Peter's FTP Server is available on hobbes.

roberto

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 16
  • -Receive: 7
  • Posts: 448
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2019, 08:29:09 pm »
...
- a Brother MFC-L8850CDW all-in-one laser printer (2014 model)
...
Is there any chance of getting one or more to work, and if so, with which driver ?
I that you, would start the simplest Brother8850. In five minutes you will start it up.
Select Computer - Printer - Install Printer. Install legacy drivers-- and select this driver: Generic Postscript (Enhanced), after the printer is created :
Propertis-- ouput port-- SLPR (in the values for SLPR, see the printer test page with the values)
After having one running the others will be similar, but with more time you can go evaluating other possibilities. Cups ....


Julien Pierre

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2019, 09:49:32 pm »
I that you, would start the simplest Brother8850. In five minutes you will start it up.
Select Computer - Printer - Install Printer. Install legacy drivers-- and select this driver: Generic Postscript (Enhanced), after the printer is created :
Propertis-- ouput port-- SLPR (in the values for SLPR, see the printer test page with the values)
After having one running the others will be similar, but with more time you can go evaluating other possibilities. Cups ....

Thanks. I couldn't find the "Generic Postscript (Enhanced)" driver, only "Generic Postscript".
I got this to work, somewhat. But with the following limitations :
- no color options
- no duplex
- resolution only up to 300 dpi

Printing from Firefox resulted in an error, also. But printing from E.EXE, as well as a desktop screenshot, worked. This may be a bug in Firefox rather than the driver.

Is there a way to get color / duplex / higher resolution to work ?

Julien Pierre

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2019, 09:50:42 pm »
Hi Julien, since all the 3 models seem to support the PS Post Script mode, you should be able to find a compatible printer driver model among the ones already included in the OS2 selectable printers list. Just seek in the file/printer title the "PS" or "Post Script" definition.  In my case, I have a Samsung Xpression C460 wireless printer (color laserjet) which I could configure to print by selecting a HP Color laserjet 8500 series driver with Post Script capability mentioned in the driver title.

As far as I'm aware, only the Brother laser supports Postscript natively.


Dave Yeo

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 10
  • -Receive: 141
  • Posts: 2032
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2019, 10:55:09 pm »

Printing from Firefox resulted in an error, also. But printing from E.EXE, as well as a desktop screenshot, worked. This may be a bug in Firefox rather than the driver.

Firefox is somewhat broken when it comes to printing. The last version should be able to print to postscript but generally it is better to print to a file, postscript (ps) or pdf with the extension signaling which and then print the file.

roberto

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 16
  • -Receive: 7
  • Posts: 448
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2019, 11:11:46 pm »

Thanks. I couldn't find the "Generic Postscript (Enhanced)" driver, only "Generic Postscript".
I got this to work, somewhat. But with the following limitations :
- no color options
- no duplex
- resolution only up to 300 dpi

Printing from Firefox resulted in an error, also. But printing from E.EXE, as well as a desktop screenshot, worked. This may be a bug in Firefox rather than the driver.

Is there a way to get color / duplex / higher resolution to work ?
You are not running Arcaos503, in this version you have the driver that says "Generic Postscript (Enhanced)" with color, resolutions 150-300-600-1200-2400
To make printer tests it seems better to use the epm.exe editor. The e.exe does not print in arcaos503, the standard firefox does not print directly, but recently another Firefox has come out, which does print directly. I have not tried this, but the Seamonkey has worked for me.
The other printers look to configure them with cups, check the netlabs cups page for help.

Julien Pierre

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2019, 11:26:34 pm »
You are not running Arcaos503, in this version you have the driver that says "Generic Postscript (Enhanced)" with color, resolutions 150-300-600-1200-2400

Yes, I'm running ArcaOS 5.0.3 . This is the only version of ArcaOS I have. Can you tell me where to find the "Enhanced" driver, as opposed to the regular one ?

Quote
The e.exe does not print in arcaos503,

It sure did for me.

Quote
the standard firefox does not print directly

It does have a print option. But it fails.

Quote
The other printers look to configure them with cups, check the netlabs cups page for help.

I checked in CUPS, and those other printers are not listed there (and neither is the Brother). This is why I posted here.

ivan

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 2
  • -Receive: 33
  • Posts: 968
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2019, 11:49:22 pm »
Hi Julien, 
 
The enhanced postscript printer driver roberto is talking about is the PSPRINT.DRV I mentioned at the beginning found in <boot drive>\sys\install\PRNDRV\PMDD_6 It also has the readme telling how to setup and add a PPD for your printer (heading: Importing PPD Files).

You can print to file in firefox and use that to produce a PDF, which is what I use it for.

I have found CUPS is more trouble than it is worth, in fact I have never got it to print to any of my printers which I why I have all postscript printers now.  With the imported PPDs they just print.

Julien Pierre

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 7
  • -Receive: 0
  • Posts: 60
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2019, 12:04:01 am »
Hi Julien, 
 
The enhanced postscript printer driver roberto is talking about is the PSPRINT.DRV I mentioned at the beginning found in <boot drive>\sys\install\PRNDRV\PMDD_6 It also has the readme telling how to setup and add a PPD for your printer (heading: Importing PPD Files).

You can print to file in firefox and use that to produce a PDF, which is what I use it for.

I have found CUPS is more trouble than it is worth, in fact I have never got it to print to any of my printers which I why I have all postscript printers now.  With the imported PPDs they just print.

Thanks ! I wonder why the installer in ArcaOS does not offer an option to install this driver. "Install legacy driver" only shows and loads the PSCRIPT.DRV .
This is really well hidden !

I changed the driver on my printer object and can now use duplex and color. However, resolution is still stuck at 300 dpi. Not sure where to get a PPD for my MFC-L8850CDW.


Doug Bissett

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Thank You
  • -Given: 1
  • -Receive: 45
  • Posts: 1198
    • View Profile
Re: 3 printers in the house - will any of them work with OS/2 ?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2019, 03:36:57 am »
Quote
I have found CUPS is more trouble than it is worth,

I find CUPS (as supplied by ArcaOS), to be simple to use, and more than capable. A couple of clicks, and start printing. Of course, I am careful to get a supported printer. I had a HP D110a, which got too expensive to support, then I got a HP OfficeJet 3830, which works very well, with CUPS. My brother has another HP printer, that works very well with CUPS. All of them are WiFi attached, which enables the built in web page, and that will do scanning for you, using a web browser.

When you use OS/2, you need to be careful what you buy.

Quote
I wonder why the installer in ArcaOS does not offer an option to install this driver.

If it isn't offered, it probably means that there is a licensing problem, or it doesn't work very well. You would need to ask Arca Noae.