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Title: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: miturbide on 2007.05.17, 04:39:11

Supporting thread for the GNASH open source Flash 7 (http://www.os2world.com/content/view/338/71/) bounty. The original and old bounty thread can be found here (http://www.os2world.com/cgi-bin/ultraboard/UltraBoard.cgi?action=Read&BID=83&TID=107&SID=).

Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.05.17, 20:50:37
Paul has earlier made a claim for the bounty money for the GNASH porting; but I also noticed that people have requested that it would be nice to get it as a plugin to browser. So the question here is what is the current status of the released code and what are the issues still to be solved?

And hopefully during the time that Paul spends to fix some more issues that we see some more USD added to the existing value.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.17, 22:43:31
Hi folks,

well, ehhh... I didn't quite understand, I'm afraid... what are we talking about?
Whether or not Paul should be allowed the bounty?

In that case - heck - YES!
It was about "porting GNASH". And that's what he did, didn't he?
It was NOT about bugfixing GNASH or extending its features on the OS/2 platform.
So for gods sake: HE DESERVES IT.

And BTW: Paul will not stop working on something just because he got the prize. That's not Paul. :-)
As for the plugin stuff: People ae free to sponsor a new bounty for that, if that is really desired, but for now I see the bounty "fulfilled".

Regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: bjorso on 2007.05.18, 10:38:30

Paul will of cource receive his Bounty claim for GNASH, the main reason for not sending him the money yet is we wanted more contributions from the community, if possible. After all, this Bounty was very underpaid!

One of the problems with Bounties is that many users want things to happen, but they are not willing to contribute with fundings, in same cases even the suggesting person has not put a single dollar into his wish. We have no right to except that things shall fall down from the sky. ;)

Personally I am very impressed by Paul, how can hi manage to make so many things happen with so little feedback?   

//Björn
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.05.18, 12:09:01
Hi Björn (and others),

Quote from: Björn Söderström on 2007.05.18, 10:38:30
Personally I am very impressed by Paul, how can hi manage to make so many things happen with so little feedback? 
//Björn

Personally, I gotta say, that one of the things that pisses me off the most about the OS/2/eComStation community is the general complete lack of feedback.

I get download reports from Mensys (who kindly host download.smedley.info), so I know how many times things have been loaded, but I get extremely little feedback.  You'll notice some ports on my site that haven't been updated in a long time - generally this means that there's been so little feedback, that I can't be bothered updating the port.

Of course if it's something that I use myself, then it tends to get updates as soon as I notice a new version.

Anyway, rant off :)

Cheers/2

Paul.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: bjorso on 2007.05.18, 12:47:06

Hi Paul,

I am not surpriced that you experience the same things that other people that is trying to do things also do. It's not good that this community is so bad concerning communication. I will not complain myself since I am not involved in development but I have experienced the same feeling when doing translations, and I have done a lot of them. If I had received feedback, it had probably resulted in better translations!?

I think something has to be done about this bad habits in this society, otherwise it's possible to lose the few hard working developers that is left, and that must not happen. :(

//Björn
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.21, 10:28:54
Hi folks,

...so you are waiting for more money to give to Paul? This is fine with me - I'll care about that. Check back the bounty in a couple of minutes. ;-) It's not because you asked for it, it's rather something I was thinking about myself already during the last days. It's a shame. People are great when finding excuses for not paying 5 bucks "because I have no credit card", "...paypal", "...bank acoount".... bla, bla...

Why not come up with the idea of "feedbackware"?
People will get a "free" license onyl if they provide "valueable" feedback, e.g. system setup, config.sys, etc. they are running the program with. No feedback - no usage. :-)

CU
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.21, 14:21:20
Hi all,

as I can't stay to see folks like Paul (who provide ongoing support and efforts to the "community") suffering from the shame of being not rewarded for it, I have raised the bounty a little (bucks should arrive in a couple of minutes).

I can't help but repeating it again:
I understand that many people don't have the (financial) means to express their thankfulness or at least to support developers. But a simple "hey, thanks!" should do however. If people could provide additional information like "It runs here and I'm using eCS 1.2 GA" that's already a valueable information, isn't it (to some extent; at least better than nothing).

Personally, I don't really use any of the things that Paul is porting to our OS (to my knowledge) but I'm pretty sure that a lot of stuff I'm using wouldn't exist without his work - because other peoples work is based upon his. "losing Paul" might not have any direct impact on most people's daily usage but it impacts 3rd party software that uses Pauls work.

And BTW:
I love that part where he says "what pisses me off the most...". That's it!!
I would love to see more people talking like that, maybe this provides a crispier and sharper image about the REAL LIFE situation of that so-called community.

Regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.05.21, 14:42:10
Can't agree more so I added some for dollars as well; since I think this port is quite important for OS2 as well.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.21, 15:14:53
Hi Kim,

just noticed the *new* amount of the bounty, and - ahhh - this looks FAR better now. ;-)

Regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.05.21, 18:11:33
Here is an suggestion (http://www.os2world.com/component/option,com_smf/Itemid,63/topic,145.0/) that Björn Söderström talked about earlier regarding some kind of starter fee for the bounties.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.21, 18:33:50
Hi Kim,

interesting... will reply to that in the given thread...

Regards
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: bjorso on 2007.05.21, 19:53:45

Thomas,

You express my feelings too about Pauls, and others peoples work! It's a shame for this society that we don't appreciate developers time and effort better than we seems to do? A friendly mail can be a good start from a user.

You are correct that most users probably don't use Pauls ports directly, but it's a good habit to think a little longer than you can see! I have started to use Kdiff3 since I need a tool for filecomparing when I perform translations. It's not on the bounty system but I have told Paul that I am grateful that hi did that port available for us.

P.S. I have also made a contribution for GNASH.

I like your idea about "feedbackware", it should be part of good manners.

//Björn

Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: melf on 2007.05.22, 00:57:46
I have to express a slightly differing opinion in this thread. I understand the frustration and the need of appreciation, but I think that the moralistic line in this thread is just leading to more bitterness and also a somewhat whining tone. We can't force appreciation, though we can try to think more of developers need to get feedback and appreciation.

I think the only cure for this bitterness and frustration is that developers charge their products or/and work. Lets say you charge 10$ for one download of a port(price of course depending on different things). Ten downloads means 100$. You could call it "cheapware" or something. I would certainly pay 10$ for a port or program I need or like when there is an immediate connection between paying and getting. I get satisfied and so is the developer, we don't have to rely on good manners or actions to not be ashamed. The voulontary payment will is a to weak force and misses that direct connection. If you want people to try software for you, Warpcafés "feedbackware" maybee is the right thing, but I wonder if that is possible with ports of eg GPL licensed programs?

AFAIK you can take any charge you want for a GPL- licensed program if you just attach the sourcecode?
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: RobertM on 2007.05.22, 01:35:15
Quote from: warpcafe on 2007.05.21, 14:21:20
Hi all,

as I can't stay to see folks like Paul (who provide ongoing support and efforts to the "community") suffering from the shame of being not rewarded for it, I have raised the bounty a little (bucks should arrive in a couple of minutes).

I can't help but repeating it again:
I understand that many people don't have the (financial) means to express their thankfulness or at least to support developers. But a simple "hey, thanks!" should do however. If people could provide additional information like "It runs here and I'm using eCS 1.2 GA" that's already a valueable information, isn't it (to some extent; at least better than nothing).

Personally, I don't really use any of the things that Paul is porting to our OS (to my knowledge) but I'm pretty sure that a lot of stuff I'm using wouldn't exist without his work - because other peoples work is based upon his. "losing Paul" might not have any direct impact on most people's daily usage but it impacts 3rd party software that uses Pauls work.

And BTW:
I love that part where he says "what pisses me off the most...". That's it!!
I would love to see more people talking like that, maybe this provides a crispier and sharper image about the REAL LIFE situation of that so-called community.

Regards,
Thomas


I too contributed some small funding to Paul - though not through the Bounty System. I did it directly from his page because I use at least 3 or 4 of the ports he maintains (though I have downloaded quite a few more and not had time to play with the rest yet). Perhaps I should have done it through the Bounty System, but the funds I sent were a general "Thank You" for all his work, not just the work on GNASH - and as always Paul was gracious and quick to send a note of thanks (humourously, for what amounted to my note of thanks to him!!  ;D )!


As I have a bit more to contribute, I'll be sending it through the Bounty System to those involved. And... as I have more time, I'll send Paul and others feedback in the hopes it will help - and am always willing to test whatever I can when needed!

-Robert
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.22, 11:17:25
Hi Robert,

of course you were right when donating to him directly, as it was not tied to the specific bounty!

And from that perspective... I fear that my attempt to sponsor "Paul" by sponsoring the "GNASH" bounty might have missed the intention. But that is neglectable, as at the end of the day Paul gets some money in an "official" way (so that other people are aware of it) and that's all I wanted. ;-)

In general, I think we must try to clearly separate bounties from feedback or, to put it that way - don't use bounties as a way of feedback. ...and by saying "we must try" I actually mean myself. ;-)

At some point, it is getting difficult: The bounty system is a very tentative way of giving feedback in a "public" way so that everyone can see that someone has done something for a developer. I think we also need "public" ways of providing *feedback* - e.g. when I say "thank you, Paul" it should be visible to everyone, maybe this encourages other users to do the same.
Perhaps many folks out there might think "A developer won't care if I say only <thanks>..." and that is something that can be changed by letting everyone else see your thankfulness... even (and especially) without money.

One of such ways of public feedback/thanks is an award - like the os/2 world awards. We should have such things (or better additional, different things) on a more frequent basis...?

Oops. Getting off-topic too much, I think I should make this an article...

Greetings
Thomas
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.05.22, 11:34:24
And here is another OT of this thread. But, another way to provide feedback is to use the comment feature that is available in all news articles, if you haven't noticed, then check the lower right corner - if it says (0) Comments then there is no comments to the posted articles.

Hopefully if people finds it hard to post an e-mail to a developer then use the comment feature also I know sometimes that some developers keeps their e-mail addresses out of the documentation due to spam. For me a comment to an article could as well be a mini-review of the application itself with a fancy screenshoot.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.05.22, 12:09:22
Hi All,

Quote from: kimhav on 2007.05.22, 11:34:24
And here is another OT of this thread. But, another way to provide feedback is to use the comment feature that is available in all news articles, if you haven't noticed, then check the lower right corner - if it says (0) Comments then there is no comments to the posted articles.

Hopefully if people finds it hard to post an e-mail to a developer then use the comment feature also I know sometimes that some developers keeps their e-mail addresses out of the documentation due to spam. For me a comment to an article could as well be a mini-review of the application itself with a fancy screenshoot.

Wow - I didn't mean to spark such a big OT discussion :)

Note that I really do appreciate people's contributions, whether it be through the links at my site or through the Bounty system - it's nice to know that people appreciate the stuff that I do.

I didn't mean to come across as whinging - although I am English so it does happen sometimes :P (ie whinging pom - probably only the Aussies will get this!!) - just expressing that if developers don't hear about people using the port, then they may assume that's because nobody is using them and stop updating them.

My focus on updating ports is:
a) something I use myself
b) stuff I receive feedback on or find out that people ARE actually using

Other developers I've spoken to feel the same way - they spend many hours working on a piece of software, then receive no feedback.  I'm lucky in that most of my ports are hosted on download.smedley.info which is at Mensys and they provide me download statistics so that I can at least see that things are being downloaded and presumably they're being used...

Anyway... back to work :)

Cheers,

Paul.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: warpcafe on 2007.05.22, 12:18:32
Hi Kim,

RIGHT! That's true, good point.

( Funny enough, I wanted to do a comment on something yesterday but wasn't logged in. I was taken to the login, logged in, got back to the comment link, but when clicking it, I was redirected back to the "you're not logged in" screen. Hmm... then I found out that it might be a browser (cache, whatever) issue and shut down/restarted my browser, did my login FIRST, and THEN tried to use the comment-link. It works. )

Using the comments links however makes sense only, if the article/news was submitted by the author himself. If one of our news editors / admins is doing the announcement, we can still provide "thanks" visible to anyone (at os2world.com) but perhaps not the author himself.
Still, that's a good idea - will do that in the future. ;-)

Regards,
Thomas

Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.05.22, 12:34:10
I agree that if the author hasn't posted the information themself but still I know from the old forum that sooner or later the author of an application usually finds the way to the comments and reads them. Might not be that they actually answer any of the question, suggestions or negative comments or what ever posted. But, suddenly there is actually some kind of feedback. Also I think that posting comments on a site, in a forum, might be bit easier since it's kind of more anonymous, ie you're not facing or speaking directly to the reciever.

It's all about getting over that there are no stupid question and the only stupid questions are the ones that you didn't ask. As well, I think that the tone in this forum is kind of nice and open minded, at least it's what I think, and this hopefully helps out a bit to take the first step to post comment or something at all. I know quite a few people that got them self burnt when posting questions or suggestions in usenet groups - so far I think we done a good work to avoid that within this forum.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rcsteiner on 2007.06.06, 23:38:18
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.05.18, 12:09:01Personally, I gotta say, that one of the things that pisses me off the most about the OS/2/eComStation community is the general complete lack of feedback.

I'd give you tons of feedback, but I don't think I actually use any of your ports.  :-(  I have a lot of ported UNIX stuff in my software collection, of course, but it's mostly stuff like Links, slrn, pine, mc, an older XFree86 plus various apps (GIMP, XV, etc.), etc.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Blonde Guy on 2007.07.11, 06:04:02
I just tried gnash on the oddtodd collection, and I didn't achieve playback. Here one of many test files that don't play on my system -- http://www.oddtodd.com/laidoff2.swf

It gives this information when it fails:
mdb:110, lastbuf:0 skiping granule 0
Assertion failed: data_size > pos, file sound_handler_sdl.cpp, line 609

Killed by SIGABRT
pid=0x0073 ppid=0x0068 tid=0x0008 slot=0x00e1 pri=0x0400 mc=0x0001
N:\P\GNASH\GNASH.EXE

All of the flash files on the website will play in the 7.14 version of innotek player. The example I gave will play in the Flash 5 or maybe even Flash 4 player.

Neil
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.07.11, 12:41:32
Ouch! This morning we recieved another 200 USD to this bounty (!) and the total value is currently now 370 USD and that is the highest amount that we so far have had on a single bounty!
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.07.13, 06:10:27
Quote from: kimhav on 2007.07.11, 12:41:32
Ouch! This morning we recieved another 200 USD to this bounty (!) and the total value is currently now 370 USD and that is the highest amount that we so far have had on a single bounty!

Yeah - it's pretty incredible!  I'm currently working on an updated build of Gnash based on the latest CVS code.  I forwarded Neil's problem to the Gnash mailing list - that problem should be fixed in CVS - so we'll soon see :)

I have two weeks off work starting in a couple of weeks - hopefully I'll have some time then to look at a Firefox plugin for Gnash.

Cheers,

Paul.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.07.13, 14:43:18
Updated build from latest cvs...

download.smedley.info/gnash-cvs20070713-os2.zip
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Blonde Guy on 2007.07.15, 08:22:51
OK, I tried the 20070713 version of gnash, and it doesn't crash anymore, but neither does it go beyond the loading screen. However, I tried episode 2, and that appears to load and play just fine, at least on my laptop.

http://www.oddtodd.com/helpwanted1.swf

Not every flash cartoon on the site plays, but it's really cool that some do. Thanks for the interesting port.

Neil

Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.07.15, 12:31:07
Quote from: Blonde Guy on 2007.07.15, 08:22:51
OK, I tried the 20070713 version of gnash, and it doesn't crash anymore, but neither does it go beyond the loading screen. However, I tried episode 2, and that appears to load and play just fine, at least on my laptop.

http://www.oddtodd.com/helpwanted1.swf

Not every flash cartoon on the site plays, but it's really cool that some do. Thanks for the interesting port.

Hi Neil - thanks for the feedback.  People do need to understand that not only is the OS/2 port of gnash a work in progress, but Gnash itself is also a work in progress - there are things that don't currently work in the OS/2 port that also don't work with Gnash on other platforms.

It would be good if people could post compatability problems with Gnash/2 and specific swf files to the Gnash newsgroup so that we can confirm if the problem is os specific or cross platform.

Cheers,

Paul.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.07.18, 09:45:25
Just a few lines about the Gnash Mailing Lists/Newsgroups

Gnash has three mailing lists hosted at gnu.org. Archives of these lists are stored at http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/:


Announcements about Gnash and most other GNU Software are made on <info-gnu@gnu.org>.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.07.21, 10:45:50
Well, since Paul has made a claim on this bounty I guess that it's time to see if we can close this bounty based on that everybody has the same opinion.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2007.07.22, 15:33:11
Hello,

is it planned to merge   the os/2port code addtions to the source   into the Gnash project  CVS?

Do we have a second /backup   person/environment  to recompile  the current CVS at any time to get the  same results?

kind regards

Rainer
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.07.23, 05:25:23
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.07.22, 15:33:11
Hello,

is it planned to merge   the os/2port code addtions to the source   into the Gnash project  CVS?

Do we have a second /backup   person/environment  to recompile  the current CVS at any time to get the  same results?

Yes it is planned to get the OS/2 changes into the Gnash CVS - I just need to tidy up the configure script changes - which I hope to do next week when I'm on holidays :)
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: kim on 2007.07.29, 11:27:39
I hope that everybody can agree to that Paul made an excellent work with this bounty and that we now would like to fullfill our part and pay out the bounty money to him.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.09, 09:11:22
Quote from: kimhav on 2007.07.29, 11:27:39
I hope that everybody can agree to that Paul made an excellent work with this bounty and that we now would like to fullfill our part and pay out the bounty money to him.

I spent some time on Gnash today - new binary is available from http://os2ports.smedley.info
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2007.08.09, 16:10:00
Hello Paul,

thanks for the new built.

Done some test  with the new built

-  results are documented at the mantis system


Here is the my test suite for peer tests:

1.   gnash,cmd

2.  gnash-test.cmd

=======================
rem Gnash.cmd        Version 1.2  2007-08-09  Rainer
rem
rem
rem  mode co100,80 gives more space for test output to look at
mode co100,80
rem
set GNASH_HOME=Home_Gnash
rem
SET LIBPATHSTRICT=T
rem
SET BEGINLIBPATH=S:\download\os2\libc063;S:\download\os2\sdl\sdl;
rem
SET SDL_USE_PROPORTIONAL_WINDOW=1
SET SDL_USE_TIMECRITICAL_AUDIO=1
rem
set HOME=s:\Home_SDL
rem
s:
rem cd \download\os2\Gnash\B20070713
cd \download\os2\Gnash\B20070809
rem
gnash %1 %2 %3 %3 %4
rem
cd \
pause

===================================================

rem GNASH Test Cases Rainer 2007-08-09
rem ===================================
rem
rem Case 1 Adobe Flash Version    Source: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=tn_15507&sliceId=1
rem ==========================
REM gnash.cmd   http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/ts/documents/test_version/version.swf
rem
rem
rem Case 2 Adobe Flash About      Source: http://www.macromedia.com/software/flash/about/
rem ========================
REM gnash.cmd   http://www.macromedia.com/swf/software/flash/about/flashAbout_info_small.swf
rem
rem
rem Case 3 YouTube: Loram Rail Grinder  Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yf_c6NOX0rM
rem ==================================
REM gnash.cmd "http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?hl=en&video_id=yf_c6NOX0rM&l=198&t=OEgsToPDskIJAsf_29VuIClov1zd-XWD&soff=1&sk=4GM1Rplz4GMHUCnpN64F9QC"
REM gnash.cmd "http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?hl=en&video_id=yf_c6NOX0rM&l=198&t=OEgsToPDskJd5XX5sL76TUbhE6ipxpwL&soff=1&sk=4GM1Rplz4GMHUCnpN64F9QC"
rem
rem
rem Case 4 YouTube: OS/2 CM IBM Japan Original  Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Vtd1VRQx0
rem ==========================================
REM gnash.cmd "http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?hl=en&video_id=V5Vtd1VRQx0&l=14&t=OEgsToPDskJkP9LNBU0KrQR-zft7Aq_K&soff=1&sk=4GM1Rplz4GMHUCnpN64F9QC"
REM gnash.cmd "http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?hl=en&video_id=V5Vtd1VRQx0&l=14&t=OEgsToPDskLmV2LHPHED1-IaP2esI_-p&soff=1&sk=4GM1Rplz4GMHUCnpN64F9QC"
REM gnash.cmd "http://www.youtube.com/player2.swf?hl=en&video_id=V5Vtd1VRQx0&l=14&t=OEgsToPDskIeXlATYgpT3mZ1PO3QwRAR&soff=1&sk=4GM1Rplz4GMHUCnpN64F9QC"
rem
rem
rem Case 4.1 YouTube: OS/2 CM IBM Japan Original  Source: local file: x:\movie\YouTube_OS_2_CM_IBM_Japan_Original.flv
rem =============================================         get with help of   http://keepvid.com
REM gnash.cmd x:\movie\YouTube_OS_2_CM_IBM_Japan_Original.flv
rem
rem
rem Case 5   Reuters video embedded on URL:  http://www.ftd.de/forschung_bildung/forschung/:Raumf%E4hre%20Endeavour%20Lehrerin/237027.html
rem ==========================================
REM
Gnash.cmd http://www.ftd.de/_components/mediaplayer/videoplayer_teaser.swf

=========================================================================================

Tip and Hint for the test suite:


The YouTube URL s are only valid for a timeslot .

If  the video is not loaded - no I/O led on Modem or Ethernet card led -  ring icon on black screen

the URL is not valid any more or
the stream output process on the YouTube server is hang /wait  - bad status casued by previous aborted test.


Workaround:

1. Wait

2. T>ry an other test

3. get new current URL

How to get the new current URL for the YouTube Flash
================================================

FIrefox add on Flashblock 1.5.4.1

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/433

1.  s tart the YouTube Url for the Video

2. the Flashblock icon is displayed on the Video area

3. right mouse klick on the icon, opens context menu

4. copy Flash address and past it to the test case in gnash-test.cmd



Gnash OS/2 Port:  Howto pass the parameter value from  Firefox add on MPC  Media PlayerConnectivity to the gnash.cmd
========================================================================================================

First  draft   status: 2007-08-09   Rainer

 
MediaPlayerConnectivity 0.8.3   

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/446

problem: 

The  YouTube flash URL contains the sign "=" and
the standard OS/2 command processor truncs the the parm string st the first "=" value in string


Solution:

MCP properties,

entry for flash:     Gnash.cmd     "%f"


in the field argument enclose the %f   with Quotes

   %f     --->   "%f"


kind regards

Rainer







 







































 

Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2007.08.09, 18:57:57
Hello,

after running the test, I found  *.TMP  files in the Gnash program directory.

  OS/2       Strg+Esc = Fensterliste       HELP = Hilfe

[S:\download\os2\gnash\b20070809]dir

Datenträger, Laufwerk S, hat den Namen VL_S_HPFS.
Datenträgernummer ist 298A:7814
Verzeichnis von S:\download\os2\gnash\b20070809

9.08.07   9.08      <DIR>           0  .
9.08.07   9.08      <DIR>           0  ..
9.08.07  12.31      31695         124  10000001.tmp
9.08.07  12.30          0         124  10000002.tmp
9.08.07  12.38      31695         124  10000003.tmp
9.08.07  12.38     633967         124  10000004.tmp
9.08.07  13.10      31695         124  10000005.tmp
9.08.07  13.10          0         124  10000006.tmp
9.08.07  13.14      31695         124  10000007.tmp
9.08.07  13.14     633967         124  10000008.tmp
9.08.07  13.14      31695         124  10000009.tmp
9.08.07  13.14     385219         124  10000010.tmp
9.08.07  13.19      31695         124  10000011.tmp
9.08.07  13.19     633967         124  10000012.tmp
9.08.07  13.50      31695         124  10000013.tmp
9.08.07  13.50     633967         124  10000014.tmp
12.07.07  18.49      35744           0  COPYING
9.08.07   9.17    5604773           0  gnash-cvs20070809-os2.ZIP
9.08.07  17.07         58         124  gnash-dbg.log
9.08.07  11.36    6731788           0  gnash.exe
9.08.07  13.33        789           0  readme.os2
        21 Datei(en)   15516104 Byte belegt
                    853260800 Byte frei

[S:\download\os2\gnash\b20070809]


No good practice to have TMP file on the program volume :-)


How to change  the destination of the  Gnash *.tmp files?   

Found no ref  in the GNU Gnash Project doc.


kind regards

Rainer
















































Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:27:51
Hello all Gnash Fans,

Paul is doing a great job - as usual :-)

On of the bug is as cross platform issue.

Playing YouTube and corrupted YouTou    Status Bar.


This bug is reported in the Gash bug track - one month ago and not assiged.

Please register / log on at Gnash and vote for the bug importance at the bug issue.


http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?20469


kind regards

Rainer




 



Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
hello all Gnash fans,

one off the test results is,

some flash video are obviously bundled with the URL of the calling side.

The SWF does all check at runtime.

This check does not run succesfully with Gnash as external player

see Gnash bug at   http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?20740

We will need to run a peer test with Linux and Firefox and Gnash Plugin.

Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

Rainer





   






Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.12, 15:56:47
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

I hope to have something on the plugin side of things "soon:
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.16, 00:58:20
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.12, 15:56:47
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

I hope to have something on the plugin side of things "soon:

Last night I got the plugin compiling, and it does show in about:plugins.  Currently, it crashes the browser on going to a page that has flash content - so I need to do some debugging :)

I also wanted to extend a THANK YOU to all those who contributed to the Gnash bounty - it really was a powerful motivation factor to work on it, as particularly when I first started looking at Gnash, there were some real challenges.  Also thanks to the OS/2 World guys for putting the Bounty system in place in the first place!
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: zizban on 2007.08.29, 03:19:14
Great work! How goes the plugin?
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2008.01.22, 18:19:31
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.16, 00:58:20
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.12, 15:56:47
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

I hope to have something on the plugin side of things "soon:

Last night I got the plugin compiling, and it does show in about:plugins.  Currently, it crashes the browser on going to a page that has flash content - so I need to do some debugging :)

I also wanted to extend a THANK YOU to all those who contributed to the Gnash bounty - it really was a powerful motivation factor to work on it, as particularly when I first started looking at Gnash, there were some real challenges.  Also thanks to the OS/2 World guys for putting the Bounty system in place in the first place!



Hello Paul,

any progress on the plugin ?


Kind Regards

Rainer


PS to all:

A new built of SDL is on netlabs for testing with current Gnash built  and the "old" MPlayer built from Paul a viable
Title: In conjunction with the OS/2-eCS port of Moonlight?
Post by: BigWarpGuy on 2008.01.22, 20:49:16
Would GNash be work in conjunction or along side with any port of MoonLight (the one Novel is porting to Linux from Silverligh?)?  ???
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: Paul Smedley on 2008.01.23, 10:54:17
Hi Rainer,

Quote from: rdconsult on 2008.01.22, 18:19:31
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.16, 00:58:20
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.12, 15:56:47
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

I hope to have something on the plugin side of things "soon:

Last night I got the plugin compiling, and it does show in about:plugins.  Currently, it crashes the browser on going to a page that has flash content - so I need to do some debugging :)

I also wanted to extend a THANK YOU to all those who contributed to the Gnash bounty - it really was a powerful motivation factor to work on it, as particularly when I first started looking at Gnash, there were some real challenges.  Also thanks to the OS/2 World guys for putting the Bounty system in place in the first place!



Hello Paul,

any progress on the plugin

Unfortunately not - basically due to a lack of time.  I have a few days off in February that may provide the necessary time to a) learn more about c++ b) learn more about mozilla plugins c) implement something that works.
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2008.01.24, 20:37:36
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2008.01.23, 10:54:17
Hi Rainer,

Quote from: rdconsult on 2008.01.22, 18:19:31
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.16, 00:58:20
Quote from: Paul Smedley on 2007.08.12, 15:56:47
Quote from: rdconsult on 2007.08.11, 14:43:23
Depending on the result - probably it is a vote for the OS/2 Port of the Gnash Plugin

I hope to have something on the plugin side of things "soon:

Last night I got the plugin compiling, and it does show in about:plugins.  Currently, it crashes the browser on going to a page that has flash content - so I need to do some debugging :)

I also wanted to extend a THANK YOU to all those who contributed to the Gnash bounty - it really was a powerful motivation factor to work on it, as particularly when I first started looking at Gnash, there were some real challenges.  Also thanks to the OS/2 World guys for putting the Bounty system in place in the first place!



Hello Paul,

any progress on the plugin

Unfortunately not - basically due to a lack of time.  I have a few days off in February that may provide the necessary time to a) learn more about c++ b) learn more about mozilla plugins c) implement something that works.


Hello Paul,

thanks for your timely answer. 

Looking forward to your February output  :-)

I  have done the "offline" test with Gnash, reported bugs to the Gansh project and get the fixes with your last built.

The work around to play Your Tube videos with "Batch"  Gansh does not work any more
--> the way of embedding the call to the video on the WEB Page has changed!

No you Tube video  with Gansh and with the 7 R73 OS/2 plugin  --> no sound. 


To make any progress - the OS/2 version of the plugin is required.

kind regards

Rainer
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2009.02.24, 11:55:09
Hallo all Gnash Testers / Users,

Paul has pubished a new built for testing

         http://download.smedley.info/gnash-0.8.4-os2-20090224.zip

kind regards

Rainer
Title: Re: GNASH open source Flash 7
Post by: rdconsult on 2009.02.25, 10:44:18
Hallo all Gnash Testers / Users,


as result of the first tests

Paul published an improved new version

http://download.smedley.info/gnash-0.8.4-os2-20090225.zip

Thanks to Paul

Kind regards from Germany

Rainer
Title: Re: GNASH Port 0.8.5 os2 Built 20090305
Post by: rdconsult on 2009.03.06, 19:22:06
   
Hallo all Gnash Testers / Users,


Paul published a new version

http://download.smedley.info/gnash-0.8.5-os2-20090305.zip

Thanks to Paul

Kind regards from Germany

Rainer