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Problems with Open Office

Started by Radek, 2008.04.02, 12:09:26

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Radek

The problem is with the equation editor. For some unknown reason, the editor uses the Windigns font for writing math symbols. Therefore, instead of an equation, I get a set of diskettes, crosshairs, zen symbols and mailboxes. Most of symbols is ignored completely (the corresponding mailbox is missing in the font most likely). That's not an equation, that's a nonsense  ;D
I tried to persuade Open Office to use the Symbol font instead of the Windings font but I haven't found out how. There seems to be no such setting.

Open Office 2.0
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saborion2

#1
Re: "The problem is with the equation editor. For some unknown reason, the editor uses the Windigns font for writing math symbols. Therefore, instead of an equation, I get a set of diskettes, crosshairs, zen symbols and mailboxes. Most of symbols is ignored completely (the corresponding mailbox is missing in the font most likely). That's not an equation, that's a nonsense   ;D
I tried to persuade Open Office to use the Symbol font instead of the Windings font but I haven't found out how. There seems to be no such setting". I mentioned in an earlier comment that I was not keen on moving/switching to Open Office from Lotus SmartSuite; and, you appear to be assisting very much in the "validation" of this decision.

Thanks. ;)

warpcafe

#2
Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.04.02, 17:24:35
I mentioned in an earlier comment that I was not keen on moving/switching to Open Office from Lotus SmartSuite; and, you appear to be assisting very much in the "validation" of this decision.
Thanks. ;)

I am glad Radek could help you. :(
You appear to be assisting very much in finding a solution for his issue.  ::)
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

saborion2

BTW "warpcafe"; Did you read this news article (link attached):

"ISO: Office Open XML ratified as standard"

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9908939-7.html?tag=nefd.top

So, do you plan on implementing this Office Open XML ratified "standard"?

Why not tell us what you think about it in comparison to Lotus SmartSuite, Open Office .... ;D ;D ;D


warpcafe

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.04.02, 18:12:33
BTW "warpcafe"; Did you read this news article (link attached):

"ISO: Office Open XML ratified as standard"

http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-9908939-7.html?tag=nefd.top

So, do you plan on implementing this Office Open XML ratified "standard"?

Why not tell us what you think about it in comparison to Lotus SmartSuite, Open Office .... ;D ;D ;D

In short (because it doesn't help Radek... just like you BTW):
Please concentrate on the topic, provide HELP or suggestions or open a new thread that you might link to from/to here. Otherwise I will have to delete your posts from this thread.
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

Saijin_Naib

In OO 2.4 beta, you can go to FORMAT->FONTS and then from there, on the right side (column of buttons) ->MODIFY, and select the fonts you want to render with for each thing: variables, operations, etc. I tried the font set replacement thing in options but it did not do anything. See if your version of OO has this menu and see if it can work for how you need it to.

Radek

(1) I haven't moved/switched from anything - neither from Smart Suite nor from anything else. I simply installed Open Office on my machine, where I haven't any "office" so far.
(2) I have checked Format->Fonts. It allows you to set fonts for variables, functions and similar things and it also allows you to set "custom fonts" which you will use in your formulas. IIRC, you cannot set symbols there but I will check and try again.

An example of the problem: If I write "a = b" I get "a diskette b". I can set fonts for 'a' and 'b' but there seems to be no way of setting the '='. I can update the symbol "%equal" and get the wished '=' but this is not a solution. You can update only few symbols this way and you must now write "a %equal b".
BTW, let us notice the Catalog->Edit option. I have the Windings font there as well, even if the equation editor has nothing common with Windings. But I can change the font for defined symbols.

warpcafe

Radek,

not sure if that helps... check here:
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=276

Also, although related to v.2.3, this may help?
http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1741&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=10
(Recreation of default profile)

regards,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

warpcafe

#8
...and another suggestion/question:
The wingdings font... where is it from? Included in ooo or have you got the M$ fonts installed (by eCS, manually...). And regardless of the display, how does it print? The same? I am just wondering that if you print to PDF via Ghostscript and have a font mapping/replacing installed it might behave different. -> Could give a clue about where the root cause is...

Cheers,
Thomas
"It is not worth an intelligent man's time to be in the majority.
By definition, there are already enough people to do that"
- G.H. Hardy

Radek

#9
(a) The Wingdings font has been installed by the OS/2 installation. I have installed DOS and WIN31 sessions as well, perhaps that's why the font is there. On the other hand, the font is useful for normal (non mathematical) text :) I will uninstall it and I will see.
(b) I haven't tested printing so far. I will try and see. Results tomorrow, I don't have web at my home.
(c) The Edit->Font->Modify trick has been decrypted already :) But it does not allow setting font for operators. You can set fonts for text elements, like variables, function names, and so on.
(d) I have only one copy of Open Office in my machine so that reading of unrelated configuration files should not threat.

...

Results:
(a) Printing. Yes, the Wingdings font is both in .pdf and on the paper. It was adventurous ;D I commanded "export PDF", selected a directory and started typing the file name. Open Office crashed immediately. Nice! After deleting popuplog.os2, I tried again. A menu apeared, that wanted to recreate a chashed file. Well, nothing has been recreated, most likely because the file was too short and too quickly created. How dotting! Open Office recreates empty files! Okay, I typed the equation again, exported the file without meddling with directories. The file seemed to be saved. I run Seek and Scan and searched for sss.pdf Surprisingly, the file has been found!
(b) I deregistered the Windings font and tried again. Now, the mailboxes disappeared completely: Open Office simply ignored almost all operators, including those, where it used to print the mailboxes. Perhaps, the configuration problem? Because I am not a guru in Open Office, I decided to uninstall (using warpin) and to install again. The same result.

The only proceeding seems to the Catalog->Edit option. When editing "special" characters, Open Office offers the Symbol font now but it is not using it.

Version 2? ;) Version 0.0.0.2 pre-alpha ;D