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Started by ModZilla, 2008.03.12, 21:12:37

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ModZilla

...if anyone may be interested in IBMshow coming to your school or SIG let me know...I'll put you on the list for 2009 travel intinerary! THX...:) in the meantime I am offering SIMCITY C_1989 in original box; cover is very kool, box aint in bad condition either; and inside are both types of floppies but not tested [ though the whole thing appears mint inside the disks have not been checked for errors], a great looking fold out full color ad for other Maxis software apps avail way back when is inside the box with an "Atrain" flyer and other promos...should anyone need any commodore books or amiga pls PM the MZ, thx! I apologize in advance for not trading these, they are long defunct but I aim to make someone a good deal esp if you are into truly Vintage MINIMALIST Computing, I have literally tons of the stuff  :):o :o ;D


MZ
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

cyberspittle

Maybe show up at Warpstock (among other places) and hand out OS/2 Redbooks on cd-rom? :p

BigWarpGuy

Would that be Warpstock Europe or Warpstock America? (or both?)  ???      8)
http://www.warpstock.org     http://www.warpstock.net

ModZilla

I will shoot for Warpstock USA S.F. by the bay but who knows I may only make it to Vegas, for shame, broke  fur sure, but I will still aim high no matter how far West I go in the Winnebago; if my house sells by then Europe 'twill be, fur sure; been awhile since I have been across the pond...it would be fun, good to getaway fr here...

MZ
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

MitchellT

So, what is IBMShow?

saborion2

#5
Quote from: MitchellT on 2008.07.25, 17:40:04
So, what is IBMShow?

Hey "ModZilla",

Does the IBMShow include the video of IBM's Steve Mills in "London" talking about OS/2 (those were some really nice words that said that OS/2 was the "best" Operating System...  ;D  8) ); not to be outdone by none other than Bill Gates who also said: (please see the attached link: "Bill Bates promoting IBM OS/2" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIq0ukqUJSk ; but, then again as one can clearly see there is "YouTube"; and, there is my savings on gas, food or cab fare. Besides, one can even watch it all while still in their pjs!  ;D ;) ;D

Regards,

SAB
 

ModZilla

#6
thank you for bringing that up,  no, but now that I think about it, video would make the show more multimedia instead of just a display of IBMs old tech stuff and OS boxes in display cases; I could take the thing virtual as well as add wideo and all, maybe scrap the whole thing as is and take it live with an ip cam, you bring up an interesting point about perhaps streaming it, sure would save on gas, but as Huffington said:

"it [the plane] was just alredy going there anyway"


in responce to the question of what is IBMshow? "my best crack at that is to just say its a collection on wheels" which I bring to youngsters at various schools where I travel spreading the news about the IBM-OS/2 legacy, since they have been so indoctrinated by MS/Apple. A few years back I took the idea to my old school in Ann Arbor at Burns Park Elementary where I attended in '53' -- of course the staff there all freaked out as they thought I was some kind of kook alien from planet Z--guess I had the wrong hall pass. In the basement that had once been the library was the kindergarten class room- neatly lined with networked macs...eeeww; I am in the process of putting up an online slide show of all items in IBMshow as fast as possible at antiqes4geeks.net or .com; I have a script for it somewhere that works pretty good w/o alot of fuss

take care all,

Mzx
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

Blonde Guy

We've already got OS/2 Museum on the east coast (New Jersey) and west coast (California). Would you consider joining that effort rather than working on your own?
Expert Consulting for OS/2 and eComStation

saborion2

Quote from: Blonde Guy on 2008.07.31, 19:20:28
We've already got OS/2 Museum on the east coast (New Jersey) and west coast (California). Would you consider joining that effort rather than working on your own?

Hi Blonde Guy,

If this is also not appear as a strange discussion/negotiation... I am also considering making a donation of OS/2 related hardware and software to an educational institution located in South America that I attended.

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Apprentice Training

Apprentice TraineeGuySuCo also administers what is considered to be the best apprentice training scheme in the country.  The programme lasts four years:  the first two years are spent at the residential Apprentice Training Centre at Port Mourant in theoretical and practical instruction, in preparation for the Guyana Technical Education Examination.  Apprentices then spend another two years on attachment to the various estate locations, to perfect their practical skills, before graduating.

http://www.guysuco.com/careers/generalinfo.asp


I would like have/see an involvement/collaboration by the "OS/2 Museum on the East Coast (New Jersey)" with this project. So, kindly let me know if this is quite possible.

Thanks in advance for your kind response.

SAB

saborion2

Quote from: saborion2 on 2008.07.31, 21:26:24
Quote from: Blonde Guy on 2008.07.31, 19:20:28
We've already got OS/2 Museum on the east coast (New Jersey) and west coast (California). Would you consider joining that effort rather than working on your own?

Hi Blonde Guy,

If this is also not appear as a strange discussion/negotiation... I am also considering making a donation of OS/2 related hardware and software to an educational institution located in South America that I attended.

Re:

Quote

Apprentice Training

Apprentice TraineeGuySuCo also administers what is considered to be the best apprentice training scheme in the country.  The programme lasts four years:  the first two years are spent at the residential Apprentice Training Centre at Port Mourant in theoretical and practical instruction, in preparation for the Guyana Technical Education Examination.  Apprentices then spend another two years on attachment to the various estate locations, to perfect their practical skills, before graduating.

http://www.guysuco.com/careers/generalinfo.asp


I would like have/see an involvement/collaboration by the "OS/2 Museum on the East Coast (New Jersey)" with this project. So, kindly let me know if this is quite possible.

Thanks in advance for your kind response.

SAB


Hi Blonde Guy, Hello All,

In addition to the above quote... here is the deal - place OS/2 "Vintage" Technologies into the "skilled hands" of "A-P-P-R-E-N-T-I-C-E-S" (Best-Of-Breed); and, Bada-Bling, Bladi Blah! An "OS/2 Technological Development Break-Through" with applications and all! ;D 8) ;D

Kindest regards.

SAB

saborion2

#10
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QuoteHi Blonde Guy, Hello All,

In addition to the above quote... here is the deal - place OS/2 "Vintage" Technologies into the "skilled hands" of "A-P-P-R-E-N-T-I-C-E-S" (Best-Of-Breed); and, Bada-Bling, Bladi Blah! An "OS/2 Technological Development Break-Through" with applications and all!  ;D 8) ;D

Kindest regards.

SAB


BTW, Blonde Guy and BigWarpGuy,

The "vintage" computer hardware and software will have an (hint, hint...) "vintage" Rolls Royce awaiting them at the PMTC in South America; and, who knows? Perhaps, an Smart ForTwo will soon follow.

Hey, "ModZilla"! How soon will you get/put the "international show" (the institutionalization of OS/2) ;D on the road? Also, I think yours (An "ibm *OS/2* show") was/is indeed a fantastic idea. ;)

Have a nice day.  8)

SAB

ModZilla

TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD HERE, ((MZ'S gettin' old!)) I would consider donating everything except the lighting; cases and shelfware...I do have other interests. which require a much bigger trailer'tow vehicle:  sequencers like Sequential out of S.F., Frisco Sound. mini moog, early midi stuff et al. The IBM show is getting old now too, most people do not even know what OS/2 is anymore, that is not a political statement, i.e., -its been my own personal experience within the last five or so years, unfortunately for me, WINDOZE seems to be the only OS around that is commonly used; I tutor using the PC for seniors, and supply computers at entry level so they can get started without going to the big box stores, these people are on fixed incomes, when in fact they are totally computer illiterate as is so often the case and well as said by them they are not timid about it, viz.,, this old guy donated some old stuff to us recently for the show and to recycle and off the cuff I asked: "I guess these boxes have a command line interface on them, right? (being they were so old I guess is why I brought it up...) "Whatsa command line?" he said.  This guy was from Hopkins, SO, the ans is YES I have alot to donate to museums at this point; over the last two years I have recycled over 250 early IBM PCs and could scale back even more...logistics is a problem now as I no longer rent storage space?

MZ
someday os2 will be ruled by the young and famous-at least in the open-source world!

saborion2

#12
Quote from: ModZilla on 2008.08.02, 16:26:40
TO LIGHTEN THE LOAD HERE, ((MZ'S gettin' old!)) I would consider donating everything except the lighting; cases and shelfware...I do have other interests. which require a much bigger trailer'tow vehicle:  sequencers like Sequential out of S.F., Frisco Sound. mini moog, early midi stuff et al. The IBM show is getting old now too, most people do not even know what OS/2 is anymore, that is not a political statement, i.e., -its been my own personal experience within the last five or so years, unfortunately for me, WINDOZE seems to be the only OS around that is commonly used; I tutor using the PC for seniors, and supply computers at entry level so they can get started without going to the big box stores, these people are on fixed incomes, when in fact they are totally computer illiterate as is so often the case and well as said by them they are not timid about it, viz.,, this old guy donated some old stuff to us recently for the show and to recycle and off the cuff I asked: "I guess these boxes have a command line interface on them, right? (being they were so old I guess is why I brought it up...) "Whatsa command line?" he said.  This guy was from Hopkins, SO, the ans is YES I have alot to donate to museums at this point; over the last two years I have recycled over 250 early IBM PCs and could scale back even more...logistics is a problem now as I no longer rent storage space?

MZ

Date Line - 08-01-2008: What on Earth was that!!! Was it a "Winged DINOSAUR" that came back to life... Here I am referring to an inaugural flight arranged by a company located in an oil-rich country whose AIRBUS 380 landed at JFK's Airport here in New York City (NYC). So, let us talk about some "heavy lifting" here  ???.

Therefore, it matters not me whether or not a "machine" (computer in this case) is old or not once the "operating principles" are the same and it gets you where you wish to go. And, remembering that "ideas" never die unlike "companies" like Microsoft, IBM... which can go out of business leaving the "technologies" behind. So, rather that "IBM Show"... How about renaming it "the OS/2 Technology Show" given the facts that with eComStation 2.0, (VOYAGER and CASSINI...  ;D ) on the horizon (and, fortunately for some "WINDOZE" not being
Quotethe only OS around
- the best is yet to come.

BTW, which would you rather pay - $10,000 to fly aboard the "CONCORDE"; or, $10,000 to fly aboard AIRBUS 380?  ;D ;D ;D

How about providing an estimate of the cost of "shipping" the donations off to South America to their "new home" where they will await the arrival of eComStation 2.0.

Kindest regards.

SAB 

saborion2

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QuoteThe IBM show is getting old now too, most people do not even know what OS/2 is anymore, that is not a political statement, i.e., -its been my own personal experience within the last five or so years, unfortunately for me, WINDOZE seems to be the only OS around that is commonly used; I tutor using the PC for seniors,

Hey ModZilla,

Like that title of that James Bond movie - "Never Say Never"! Here come the "juniors" to peer into your future "South American OS/2 Museum" (an International OS/2 Innovation Center)  ;D

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33 more survive rigorous GUYSUCO apprenticeship course
By Jeune Bailey Van-Keric
THIRTY-THREE youngsters who were engaged in studies at the Guyana Sugar Corporation (GUYSUCO) Training Centre through the company's apprenticeship programme, were acknowledged recently for their sterling performance at the qualifying examinations when the institution held its 47th annual graduation exercise.

Graduands of the GUYSUCO Training Centre    
   
The event, which was held at the Centre's premises at Port Mourant, on the Corentyne, saw the survivors of the 'Class of 2008' receiving their certificates of merit after successfully completing studies in six disciplines. Close to three-quarters of the lot graduated with distinction, while the remainder earned credits.

The six areas of study had to do with agricultural mechanics; installation and repairs; general mechanics; and the art of sugar boiling among other subject matters.

Giving a comprehensive report of how the students performed over the four-year period, programme manager, Mr. Floyd Scott told the gathering that while the initial intake of apprentices in 2004 was 47, that amount was significantly reduced to 33 as the programme progressed. What was heartening, however, was that despite the many challenges the remaining 33 faced, they held on to the bitter end, earning an overall 100% pass with no referrals.

One of the challenges at reference was students not being able to use the workshop as often as they should, because of the slow pace of the removal of the asbestos therein. Another was the unavailability of internet access which was a great hindrance to the apprentices' technical development.

Valedictorian, Courtney Verne Albert
   
   
Of major concern, too, to Mr. Scott was the Centre's inability to attract candidates with the requisite grades in Mathematics and English Language, due to poor outreach programming.

These setbacks notwithstanding, Mr. Scott reported that the Centre was still able to record some major achievements, one of which he was proud to say had to do with the designing of electrical modules for alternative energy.

Scott told the gathering, among them Minister of Labour, Mr. Manzoor Nadir, GUYSUCO Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Nick Jackson, and Chairman of the Company's Board of Directors, Mr. Ronald Alli, that his aim was to create an institution of excellence, not just with respect to making a living, but also in terms of how students lived. And this is primarily why apprentices are encouraged to appreciate each other's culture, in addition to learning other skills outside of their required areas of study, such as gardening.

During their final year of studies, Mr. Scott said, the trainees did quite well for themselves in sports, as evidenced by their becoming the new Junior National Volleyball champions; their placing second and third in the National Mashramani Chutney Competition; as well as their development of a vibrant agro and aquaculture project to supplement the school's kitchen needs.

Among improvements envisaged by Scott for the new fiscal year is the upgrading of certain physical structures at the institution, and their being accredited by the relevant regional authorities so that graduates may benefit from the free movement of skills under the Caribbean Single Market and Economy (CSME).

During the two-and-a-half-hour ceremony, which was punctuated by cultural items, Mr. Jackson reminded the new batch of graduates that they were about to enter a new era in a world that is constantly revolving, and that the only way they can be a part of that change is by seeking after education, which is a most powerful weapon.

Mr. Alli, in turn, observed that with the unfolding of the Skeldon Modernisation Plant, bringing on stream the latest in sugar technology, the industry will be moving shortly to mechanical harvesting, which will be fully operable during the second harvesting crop at Skeldon, and subsequently the Enmore Estates.

Noting that such a decision is necessary for the country's survival, Mr. Alli said that despite the many challenges these changes might present, there is still a future for sugar in Guyana. As such, he urged the young graduands to embrace change and to continue with their studies. "You can't afford to stop now," he said. "If you do, you will be left behind,"

And, turning his attention to the company's inability to retain more than 20 per cent of its apprentices after they will have completed their two-year attachment, Mr. Alli said that figure is too little for a corporation which needs skilled personnel and invests in excess of $700,000 per apprentice per year.

Picking up on this trend, Minister Nadir observed that those who had dropped out of the initial batch had wasted a privileged opportunity, but, warned those who survived to pay strict attention to the safety protocols since the sector is noted for being accident-prone, as high as 60 per cent.

Valedictorian, Courtney Verne Albert, who got three distinctions, said while he regarded his time spent at the Centre as being "in a jail without any hope of parole," he soon came to realise that it was of utmost importance to maintain the standards of the institution as there was a legacy to pass on.

What he found, too, was that with time, he and his batch-mates became more open-minded and appreciative, not only of each other, but also of what they had in terms of an opportunity to make a better life for themselves.

In closing, he urged his batch-mates to always remember, no matter where they go, that they owe it to themselves to put their country first.

http://www.guyanachronicle.com/topstory.html#Anchor-40439


"Port Mourant" here comes "ModZilla" and his IBM (Lenovo....oops) Show!  ;D ::) ;D

Kindest regards.

SAB

saborion2

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Re:

Quote"Port Mourant" here comes "ModZilla" and his IBM (Lenovo....oops) Show!   ;D  ::)  ;D

In going for "launch" ModZilla notice the proximity of "Port Mourant" to "Kourou, French Guiana" (and,following The Explosion of the Ariane 5"), please see the attached link:

Quotehttp://www.ima.umn.edu/~arnold/disasters/ariane.html

as:

QuoteIt turned out that the cause of the failure was a software error in the inertial reference system. Specifically a 64 bit floating point number relating to the horizontal velocity of the rocket with respect to the platform was converted to a 16 bit signed integer. The number was larger than 32,767, the largest integer storeable in a 16 bit signed integer, and thus the conversion failed.an one...

Hence the reason/focus on the development of an "64-bit" Operating System like Voyager (or CASSINI). There are lots and lots of things that can be learnt/developed from "Museums" (Laboratories, ideas...) such as yours!  ;)

Kindest regards,

SAB